Covington Catholic has beaten them many times as well.

 

And they still treat CovCath folks like they never have or never will. I should have worded that better.

Walter why so upset over Boyle's schedule? It did it's job and that was to have the team ready for the playoffs. Why do we need to play Ryle? Just because you want it? Geez! Get over it, it's not going to happen, our schedule if full for next year. We've added Bowling Green instead.

 

I could care less if Boyle plays Ryle. My response was to Hatz post that Boyle played a tough schedule this past year.

 

My response was that had they played a team the caliber of Highlands or Ryle, that winning streak still wouldn't be intact. Keep in mind, however, that it's MY OPINION so really it amounts to whatever you want it to be.

 

I still don't understand why we need to play Ryle if we are playing Highlands. I thought Highlands was better than Ryle.

 

 

Other than a Boyle victory is there anything Boyle can do to earn any respect from Highlands? I expect us to win. I expect us to win every game but if you guys are returning 9 overall starters and we are only returning 8 overall starters then you guys obviously have a HUGE upper hand in this game. If we lose by less than 14 points will we have earned your respect? You guys are treating us like Covington Catholic like we I've never beaten you before. We are 2-2 against you guys. We have beaten you for a State Championship before and won State Championships with you in our class. Do you guys really believe you would have beaten us by 3+ tds this year or last year? If not then why should you guys automatically become 3 tds better than us? We aren't losing as much as you want to believe we are. Maybe it's just weird for me being the underdog and getting so blatantly disrespected but we have beaten you before and we'll beat you again.

 

Highlands respects EVERY opponent from Boyle Co to Scott High School. (No disrespect to Scott).

 

To be fair, Boyle didn't beat Highlands when they had their VERY GOOD teams such as the past 4 and the ones from the late 90's, early 2000's. You beat Highlands teams that were in down years to Highlands standards.

 

Keep in mind that the two times Boyle beat Highlands was in a year where Danville also beat Highlands. (2003)

 

The team Boyle lost to twice was a state championship caliber team. (2004)

 

Some of the Boyle Co faithful are making it sound as if these two have been playing for years when realistically, they met two years with one team sweeping the other in one of the two years.

 

Highlands may only be returning 9 starters but you have to understand the type of talent they have in their current junior and soph class that DIDN"T start but saw a lot of time to understand why Highlands and nky fans are so optimistic about next years' team. Don't be fooled by the amount of starters they return. They played around 30-35 different guys on a regular basis.

 

Add some of the extremely talented sophomores that are coming up to fill in holes here and there on special teams and both sides of the ball, and you're going to see a great Highlands team.

 

I respect Boyle Co and what they've done over the years. I just think to be the man, you have to beat the man. The last few years Highlands has been one of the top two teams in the state regardless of class.

And they still treat CovCath folks like they never have or never will. I should have worded that better.

 

Highlands has dominated that rivalry over the past few years. Outside of this past season when Highlands beat them 27-20, it hasn't been close. That's why a lot of fans, some Covcath fans included, would be surprised if the Colonels knocked off the Birds.

 

Highlands is in the middle of a dynasty right now that may never be seen again in Ky fooball history. If they live up to the hype this coming season and win #21, making it 5 in a row, they will tie the consecutive record for state titles, set by your Rebels. What makes Highlands' run so impressive though is that they've done this while playing up in class.

Highlands has dominated that rivalry over the past few years. Outside of this past season when Highlands beat them 27-20, it hasn't been close. That's why a lot of fans, some Covcath fans included, would be surprised if the Colonels knocked off the Birds.

 

Highlands is in the middle of a dynasty right now that may never be seen again in Ky fooball history. If they live up to the hype this coming season and win #21, making it 5 in a row, they will tie the consecutive record for state titles, set by your Rebels. What makes Highlands' run so impressive though is that they've done this while playing up in class.

I don't think it is as impressive as you say it is that they have accomplished this while playing up in class. We all know that Highlands has a much lower tuition than private schools. We also know that while their numbers are not that high, they have a very select football teams with players that are not all living or from Ft. Thomas. It is not only numbers, but the specific quality athlete that your institution can attract and allow to attend. It would have been extremely impressive if they would have played up to 6A.

I could care less if Boyle plays Ryle. My response was to Hatz post that Boyle played a tough schedule this past year.

 

My response was that had they played a team the caliber of Highlands or Ryle, that winning streak still wouldn't be intact. Keep in mind, however, that it's MY OPINION so really it amounts to whatever you want it to be.

 

 

So you took upon yourself to criticized Hatz because Boyle did not play a tough sechdule in your opinion? IMO there's a team in 4A that if they would have played a tougher schedule, it would not have come down to phantom holding call against a #4 seeded team, at home, to get knocked out of the playoffs. He who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones at others!

I could care less if Boyle plays Ryle. My response was to Hatz post that Boyle played a tough schedule this past year.

 

My response was that had they played a team the caliber of Highlands or Ryle, that winning streak still wouldn't be intact. Keep in mind, however, that it's MY OPINION so really it amounts to whatever you want it to be.

 

 

 

Highlands respects EVERY opponent from Boyle Co to Scott High School. (No disrespect to Scott).

 

To be fair, Boyle didn't beat Highlands when they had their VERY GOOD teams such as the past 4 and the ones from the late 90's, early 2000's. You beat Highlands teams that were in down years to Highlands standards.

 

Keep in mind that the two times Boyle beat Highlands was in a year where Danville also beat Highlands. (2003)

 

The team Boyle lost to twice was a state championship caliber team. (2004)

 

Some of the Boyle Co faithful are making it sound as if these two have been playing for years when realistically, they met two years with one team sweeping the other in one of the two years.

 

Highlands may only be returning 9 starters but you have to understand the type of talent they have in their current junior and soph class that DIDN"T start but saw a lot of time to understand why Highlands and nky fans are so optimistic about next years' team. Don't be fooled by the amount of starters they return. They played around 30-35 different guys on a regular basis.

 

Add some of the extremely talented sophomores that are coming up to fill in holes here and there on special teams and both sides of the ball, and you're going to see a great Highlands team.

 

I respect Boyle Co and what they've done over the years. I just think to be the man, you have to beat the man. The last few years Highlands has been one of the top two teams in the state regardless of class.

 

 

 

Thank you. IF Highlands beats us in week 0 it is because we are down according to Boyle County standards.

I don't think it is as impressive as you say it is that they have accomplished this while playing up in class. We all know that Highlands has a much lower tuition than private schools. We also know that while their numbers are not that high, they have a very select football teams with players that are not all living or from Ft. Thomas. It is not only numbers, but the specific quality athlete that your institution can attract and allow to attend. It would have been extremely impressive if they would have played up to 6A.

 

I think you need to check your facts, Larry.

 

Only two kids on this years' state title team didn't play in the FTJRFL.

 

They are as home grown as they come.

 

Also, Highlands is a public school so what are you talking about as far as tuition goes? You also failed to mention that Highlands loses a lot of kids to Newcath. Don't make it sound like they benefit from a kid here and there moving in to the area because my guess would be that 35% of Ft. Thomas kids go to Newcath as well. I grew up on West Villa in Ft. Thomas with a Newcath kid living right across the street from me. (Jack Gruenschlager)

 

AS to the comment of them playing 6A, you do realize they have the numbers of a middle of the pack 3A team, right? They won one and lost one against a 6A semi finalist that gave Trinity their best game of the year, inside KY. How you can say Highlands' run isn't impressive seems like a sour grape, IMO. Playing up two classes and they go undefeated over 4 years in that class. What else do you want?

So you took upon yourself to criticized Hatz because Boyle did not play a tough sechdule in your opinion? IMO there's a team in 4A that if they would have played a tougher schedule, it would not have come down to phantom holding call against a #4 seeded team, at home, to get knocked out of the playoffs. He who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones at others!

 

Where did I criticize Hatz? He and I simply had a friendly debate discussing a teams' schedule. Thank you for your input though.

Thank you. IF Highlands beats us in week 0 it is because we are down according to Boyle County standards.

 

Considering these two will likely meet 3 or 4 times over the next two years, we'll find out one way or another. :thumb:

I think you need to check your facts, Larry.

 

Only two kids on this years' state title team didn't play in the FTJRFL.

 

They are as home grown as they come.

 

Also, Highlands is a public school so what are you talking about as far as tuition goes? You also failed to mention that Highlands loses a lot of kids to Newcath. Don't make it sound like they benefit from a kid here and there moving in to the area because my guess would be that 35% of Ft. Thomas kids go to Newcath as well. I grew up on West Villa in Ft. Thomas with a Newcath kid living right across the street from me. (Jack Gruenschlager)

 

AS to the comment of them playing 6A, you do realize they have the numbers of a middle of the pack 3A team, right? They won one and lost one against a 6A semi finalist that gave Trinity their best game of the year, inside KY. How you can say Highlands' run isn't impressive seems like a sour grape, IMO. Playing up two classes and they go undefeated over 4 years in that class. What else do you want?

 

1. You don't have to live in Ft. Thomas to play in the FTJFL so that is a mute point.

2. Highlands is a public school that accepts tuition students for around $2k a year as I understand it. Much less than NCC for example. Which makes it much easier for a kid from Newport for example to go to HHS.

 

I've never understood why HHS fans on this board consistently deny the benefit of out of district students to their football program. Everyone else can see it and knows about it, why is it denied so hard? Heck be proud of it there is a reason for it.

I think you need to check your facts, Larry.

 

Only two kids on this years' state title team didn't play in the FTJRFL.

 

They are as home grown as they come.

 

Also, Highlands is a public school so what are you talking about as far as tuition goes? You also failed to mention that Highlands loses a lot of kids to Newcath. Don't make it sound like they benefit from a kid here and there moving in to the area because my guess would be that 35% of Ft. Thomas kids go to Newcath as well. I grew up on West Villa in Ft. Thomas with a Newcath kid living right across the street from me. (Jack Gruenschlager)

 

AS to the comment of them playing 6A, you do realize they have the numbers of a middle of the pack 3A team, right? They won one and lost one against a 6A semi finalist that gave Trinity their best game of the year, inside KY. How you can say Highlands' run isn't impressive seems like a sour grape, IMO. Playing up two classes and they go undefeated over 4 years in that class. What else do you want?

Do you believe what you are saying. Having any kid that doesn't come from your town is a huge advantage. Also, Highlands loses no one to NCC that isn't from a Newcath family. However, I know plenty of schools that have lost kids to Highlands through the years from Kenton, Campbell, and Boone county. Also, they even had a couple of kids from across the river in one class a few years ago. As far as being a public, they are an independent. That means they can choose to accept anyone from out of district and are also able to set their tuition according to what they want with help from local base. Therefore, they have an advantage over privates who have to keep tuition set high enough to operate due to a lack of a local tax base. Their run being impressive is them taking advantage of their situation, both in being able to get athletes, and being able to set work standards high due to their community tradition. However, they also have a lack of state competition in 5A. Overall, 5A has been weak since the six class system started. Who is the 5A state champion not from NKY? You also can't talk out of both sides of your mouth. Either you think they are the best program in the state, or you think they have been impressive with their lack of draw and numbers. Which is it?

Considering these two will likely meet 3 or 4 times over the next two years, we'll find out one way or another. :thumb:

 

We will be good. Should be very good. I am unsure if we will be 2008-2010 good but like you said, we'll find out one way or another. I expect us to be that good but if we aren't I'll still display the pride you all are accustomed to seeing. I'll be surprised if we aren't that good. I am looking forward to seeing if Highlands is as good as proclaimed. I have stated and still believe we would beat you in 2010 and 2009. Of course I believe we win in 2011 as well. We shall see.

We will be good. Should be very good. I am unsure if we will be 2008-2010 good but like you said, we'll find out one way or another. I expect us to be that good but if we aren't I'll still display the pride you all are accustomed to seeing. I'll be surprised if we aren't that good. I am looking forward to seeing if Highlands is as good as proclaimed. I have stated and still believe we would beat you in 2010 and 2009. Of course I believe we win in 2011 as well. We shall see.

 

I have not dog in the fight for either team. However, it was very noticable this year watching both teams play that Highlands had far superior team speed over Boyle. IMO, it will be a long night for Boyle playing Highlands early in the season.

1. You don't have to live in Ft. Thomas to play in the FTJFL so that is a mute point.

2. Highlands is a public school that accepts tuition students for around $2k a year as I understand it. Much less than NCC for example. Which makes it much easier for a kid from Newport for example to go to HHS.

 

I've never understood why HHS fans on this board consistently deny the benefit of out of district students to their football program. Everyone else can see it and knows about it, why is it denied so hard? Heck be proud of it there is a reason for it.

 

I think the issue is with how prevalent people think it is. I believe someone said earlier this year we had 2 to 4 who didn't grow up in Fort thomas. That's out of 80+ kids. We probably lose more than that to NewCath.

1. You don't have to live in Ft. Thomas to play in the FTJFL so that is a mute point.

2. Highlands is a public school that accepts tuition students for around $2k a year as I understand it. Much less than NCC for example. Which makes it much easier for a kid from Newport for example to go to HHS.

 

I've never understood why HHS fans on this board consistently deny the benefit of out of district students to their football program. Everyone else can see it and knows about it, why is it denied so hard? Heck be proud of it there is a reason for it.

 

Why would a kid want to play for Highlands?

 

Why does almost every HHS freshman football player want to dress varsity after their season is over, knowing that they are going to practice for another whole month, stand on the sidelines in the freezing cold and see limited action?

 

There are a lot of great areas in Boone, Campbell, and Kenton counties. But maybe a family wanting to have their child in Ft. Thomas has something to do with Ft. Thomas having a great educational system and a great tradition for football. Maybe it has something to do with the players winning the state championship, arriving home in the middle of the night Sunday morning after a long bus ride home, yet going out on their own Monday after school to lift weights, or maybe going out on their own and catching passes and playing tag football during frigid days in December or hot days in June, or maybe it has to do with the FTJFL and the dedication of parents who coach these kids and give up their Saturday to be at the field, or maybe it has to do with the kids playing football together and against each other since the 3rd grade due to the FTJFL, or maybe it has to do with having the best coaching staff in the state who work for peanuts or nothing because of the satisfaction they get out of seeing these kids develop both on and off the football field due to their hard work, or maybe it has to do with the kids knowing how lucky they really are to have such a good coaching staff, or maybe it has to do with forming lifetime friendships with current players and with past players who call or text them before big games and give them tips on how to become better, or maybe it has to do with fund raisers that the athletic department has, or maybe the player moms and their dedication all year long, or maybe it just is enjoyable to a kid to be boo'd by everyone throughout the Commonwealth and southern Ohio, besides the 27,000 people inside of Ft. Thomas.