System is terribly broken. 6 classes is a farce. Sending horid teams to the playoffs should embarrass the horid teams. It needs to be changed to 4 classes ASAP.

 

VOR's attempt to compare hoops to football is truly an apples to oranges comparasion.

Semperfi--I love the marines but you are wrong on this one. Just too many bad teams watering down the playoffs. 1st round is a joke.

I like 6 classes, you would still have this first round problem in four classes. They always did. Problem is to cut out the fourth team and give district winners a bye.

As long as #4 seeds knock off #1 seeds every once in a while, the four-team system is here to stay ...

As long as all your other sports are taking everyone into the playoffs - So goes football.

 

I completely agree that 6 classes are way too much. I would like to see 4 classes and everyone goes and slugs it out in their respective brackets. But with the extra $$ that is generated for the schools, I don't think we will ever see a District Winner/Runner-up scenario again.

As long as all your other sports are taking everyone into the playoffs - So goes football.

 

I completely agree that 6 classes are way too much. I would like to see 4 classes and everyone goes and slugs it out in their respective brackets. But with the extra $$ that is generated for the schools, I don't think we will ever see a District Winner/Runner-up scenario again.

 

It is same to assume the playoffs that include all (or almost all) schools does make some extra dollars. However, a question or issue that does not seem to be addressed or has not apparently been addressed is the fact that there are a) 6 classes and b) a small number of district members create additional costs to schools in terms of raw, actual dollars to schools and to the state itself. Physically stretched out districts created by a) and b) means that schools have to spend more money on buses and bus drivers and fuel. This is real cost, with real impact to schools. I believe LBBC indicated in another thread that some schools are starting to impose distance limitations for their teams, likely due to these higher costs. Keeping games in close proximity keeps these real costs lower. In addition, it keeps kids off buses, where they rarely are doing school work. Riding 2 or more hours on a school night to play a JV or Freshmen game is not very conducive to good academics. It would be interesting to know if these two factors - 1) additional costs to the school and the state and, 2) academic performance impact of long travel have been looked at the by decision makers in KHSAA or the Board of Education. Anyone know?

If schools travel 2 or more hours on a school night to play a JV or Fresh game its their own fault and has nothing to do with 6 classes. As far as Friday night goes I would much rather my son be on a 2 hr school bus ride than out running around with his friends in a car.

System is terribly broken. 6 classes is a farce. Sending horid teams to the playoffs should embarrass the horid teams. It needs to be changed to 4 classes ASAP.

 

VOR's attempt to compare hoops to football is truly an apples to oranges comparasion.

Semperfi--I love the marines but you are wrong on this one. Just too many bad teams watering down the playoffs. 1st round is a joke.

 

 

 

 

Why should football be the only sport that doesn't allow everyone into the playoffs? There are horrible teams in every other sport that "water down" the postseason.

Below is the KHSAA mission statement - straight from their website.

 

MISSION STATEMENT

The KHSAA shall establish, promote and deliver interscholastic athletic programs and activities with an emphasizes on participation, safety, sportsmanship and integrity to enhance the

educational experience of the student-athlete.

 

If your attempting to meet this mission statement, then I don't see how eliminating playoff games achieves that goal. The problem is that most everyone on BGP's have the goal of seeing competitive football games. If you want to see competitive football games, then eliminate playoff games. I also think that six classes in KY is to much. However, if your goal is to emphasize participation, especially participation in 'playoffs', then six classes achieves that goal. This is simply a problem where different groups have different goals (one participation and education of student athletes and another of fans wanting competitive games to watch).

 

Folks, my son graduated from Brossart last year. There is no way Brossart stood a chance of winning the state championship. Last year Brossart won one district game and that win, late in the year, qualified them for the playoffs. For my son there are so many lessons and memories from both the one district win and the playoff game (a loss to a # 1 seed), I can't imagine why anyone would want to take that away from a teenager. Just a thought.

Below is the KHSAA mission statement - straight from their website.

 

MISSION STATEMENT

The KHSAA shall establish, promote and deliver interscholastic athletic programs and activities with an emphasizes on participation, safety, sportsmanship and integrity to enhance the

educational experience of the student-athlete.

 

If your attempting to meet this mission statement, then I don't see how eliminating playoff games achieves that goal. The problem is that most everyone on BGP's have the goal of seeing competitive football games. If you want to see competitive football games, then eliminate playoff games. I also think that six classes in KY is to much. However, if your goal is to emphasize participation, especially participation in 'playoffs', then six classes achieves that goal. This is simply a problem where different groups have different goals (one participation and education of student athletes and another of fans wanting competitive games to watch).

 

Folks, my son graduated from Brossart last year. There is no way Brossart stood a chance of winning the state championship. Last year Brossart won one district game and that win, late in the year, qualified them for the playoffs. For my son there are so many lessons and memories from both the one district win and the playoff game (a loss to a # 1 seed), I can't imagine why anyone would want to take that away from a teenager. Just a thought.

AGREE!!!!

In the 1980s, you had teams capable of challenging for a state title because only the district champion advanced.

 

In the late 1980s and early 1990s, only two teams from each district made it and if memory serves, it was schools from Louisville and NKY that openly complained about quality teams not making the playoffs because of the strength of the top two teams.

 

Now four teams is too many.

 

Which is it? Football is the only sport where every school does not automatically qualify for the postseason tournament. Why is four too many? Why is there no outrage for the other sports that lets EVERYONE in?

One reason football is much different than basketball:

 

If we let everyone into the postseason for football, it will take six rounds of playoffs to get to six state champions. That's six weeks.

 

Every other sport, in the postseason, requires just three weeks ... one apiece for district, regional and state tournaments. Now some sports extend it more than necessary, but all of them can be played to completion in half the time.

Go back to 4 classes! And only 4 rounds of playoffs!

In the 1980s, you had teams capable of challenging for a state title because only the district champion advanced.

 

In the late 1980s and early 1990s, only two teams from each district made it and if memory serves, it was schools from Louisville and NKY that openly complained about quality teams not making the playoffs because of the strength of the top two teams.

 

Now four teams is too many.

 

Which is it? Football is the only sport where every school does not automatically qualify for the postseason tournament. Why is four too many? Why is there no outrage for the other sports that lets EVERYONE in?

 

Any other sport crown more than 2 state champions? Most sports only have 1 state champion while football serves up 6 state champions. That is a big difference between the sports. I am surprised there is no outrage in only allowing 4 teams. If you are unlucky enough to be in a district with 5 teams, why should that 5th seed have to sit home when a district with only 4 teams everyone automatically makes the playoffs? Seems a bit unfair.

All I can say is that I am happy to live so close to Ohio, where you EARN your way into the playoffs! And where it's not watered down! Stands are more full as most teams and their fans know they have a chance in a first round game, until in KY. In SOME games you may have a 4 beat a 1, but those are not often, and not worth having a 6 class system, back to 4 classes, or even 5.

Talking about this 6 class system is like...:deadhorse: