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Let's Discuss: Is Yates HS Going Too Far?

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How would you feel watching your son who is seventh or eighth on the team sitting on the bench when his team is up 40?

 

I don't know how that would feel.

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I agree completely. I wouldn't blame the players at all. They simply go out and play the game.

 

This falls solely on the coach. I saw in a interview after the 170-35 win where the coach said something along the lines of "my team is striving for a national championship. In order for us to accomplish this, we have to play the same way 32 minutes and do the same things from start to finish. I can't ask my team to back off because that sets us back."

 

That's not the exact comment, but very similar from what I remember. This coach is an idiot and is going to end up getting one of his players hurt.

 

And my question to the coach is did you have your players intentionally fouling the other team in the first quarter? I don't necessarily have a problem with very lopsided scores because I do agree it is up to the other team to get better and prevent that lopsided score from happening. As to sportsmanship, it is more about how the game is played. I think the intentional fouling to get 100 points is way over the top. Keeping the full court press on the entire game is not something I would do but I can't say I would be totally upset by it. If I were the other team's coach, I would see it as an opportunity for my time to get better at beating a press. So the method of getting the high score is the key for me in this. Be true to your game plan and the way you play and I can't complain as long as there is no trash talk or mockery of my team going along with it.

My opinion is that this is one of the most terrible displays of sportsmanship that I can ever remember.

 

My buddy's opinion is that it's not really a big deal and the kids should be allowed to enjoy the spotlight.

 

I just can't agree with that :idunno:

 

Agreed!

You just have to be on the end of those beatings one time to understand what it does to the kids. You can't forget that it is about them.

As far as Coach Bowden, that sounds like a response to a touchdown at the end of a game not an 84-3 pounding with the starters in.

I look at the coach as a product of his kids, if he were truly trying to show how good they were, I would think that you try and hold teams scoreless. of course that would depend more on his ability to coach half court defense.***** I would stay with the scoring goal coach.

Great FSU Coach, Bobby Bowden, was asked a while back on how he would respond to another coach who thinks he is running up the score and he said he would tell the opposing coach-- "It's your job to keep the score down, not mine. If you don't like the score, either recruit harder or coach better. I've got to coach my team and you've got to coach yours. You can only coach one team."
Great analogy:rolleyes:. Sorry, but this is a high school thread. High Schools do not recruit:sssh:

The sun don't shine on the same dog's tailend all the time, I am sure that at some point this behavior by the coach will come back to haunt him. I am not sure that if I had a player who was big enough and strong enough I wouldn't have him "make a statement" Now I know that is bad sportsmanship, but some times you have to fight fire with fire.

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I personally don't think it would've made any difference for them to win 85-65 as it would for them to win 100-80. However, now it makes a huge difference because the entire nation is talking about their poor sportsmanship. This type of thing will come back to bite them in the end.

What goes around comes around! If I was getting beat by 55+ points and he still has the starters in the game, I believe I would pull my players from the game and go home. Then it goes in the books as a forfeit with a score of 1-0. In the back of my mind I would want to put my seldom used "football" player in the game to even the score but would probably not do that to an opposing player that is just doing what his coach is telling him to do.

And my question to the coach is did you have your players intentionally fouling the other team in the first quarter? I don't necessarily have a problem with very lopsided scores because I do agree it is up to the other team to get better and prevent that lopsided score from happening. As to sportsmanship, it is more about how the game is played. I think the intentional fouling to get 100 points is way over the top. Keeping the full court press on the entire game is not something I would do but I can't say I would be totally upset by it. If I were the other team's coach, I would see it as an opportunity for my time to get better at beating a press. So the method of getting the high score is the key for me in this. Be true to your game plan and the way you play and I can't complain as long as there is no trash talk or mockery of my team going along with it.

 

Are you kidding me? You play the game to win yes you do not play it to humiliate the other team. What your not thinking about is the team getting beat like this has their starters out so they probably have their second string in going against a press that the starters couldn't handle. The minds of some are clouded by the pollution of precieved success. BTW if I were coaching the other team getting beat I would call for my boys to grow a pair and take care of bussiness one way or another.

At some point a coach's ethics and morals either come in to play, or are shown to be totally absent. In this particular case I think it is quite clear with which case we are dealing. The "Get good enough to stop me" mentality is for weaklings and "me-first"ers. High school sports ARE NOT PROFESSIONAL in nature and not every school is blessed with athletes, numbers or even the ability to attract top notch coahes. High school sports ARE NOT EQUITABLE in terms of level of competition. That's why all but two states now classify EVERY sport. It is the responsibility of coaches to maintain fair play, ethical play and sportsmanship. The Yates coach clearly is unable to display any of those attributes.

I wouldn't want a coach like that around my child. I would be embarrassed to even be associated with a team that uses bush league tactics to attain their goals.

Great analogy:rolleyes:. Sorry, but this is a high school thread. High Schools do not recruit:sssh:

 

I fully understand that the recruiting part doesn't apply to this thread, but the other major parts of the quote does.

 

I was just trying to point out that there are probably other coaches out there who might feel the same way as Coach Bowden.

I agree this is a very bad showing of sportsmanship by the Yates coach. We can't fault the players here becasue they just got out and play the game.

 

This all falls solely on the Yates coach and also athletic director for allowing these poor showings of sportsmanship by simply trying to embarass other teams.

 

If I was an opposing coach, I'd be furious about the latest events that occurred. I hate to say it but sooner or later, someone isn't going to take this lightly and one of the Yates players are going to get hurt because of a coach's methods.

 

It did lead to a near fight in the 170-35 game. This situation is even worse, in my opinion.

So why would teams continue to schedule games with this team and be humiliated? Seems to me that if no schools scheduled with them to play....then, that solves the problem.

Winning by 100 points doesn't impress me much.

 

Winning a tough game by 3 impresses me much more.

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