17 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

No discussion opportunity in the 3 weeks after the April 15th release?

 

2 minutes ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

Does anyone know if this meeting will be on their YouTube channel live today?  Or will be depended on updates coming from X as the meeting unfolds

1 minute ago, Hydration-coach83 said:

Does anyone know if this meeting will be on their YouTube channel live today?  Or will be depended on updates coming from X as the meeting unfolds

Per the Herald-Leader, it's apparently a conference call meeting. So I'm not thinking there will be any direct insight to the discussion.
 

 

I just hope they do this right. 

Just now, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

So am I inferring correctly that they are going to evidently be discussing 2 different options for multipliers? Because it looks to me like they're listing the A) the 2-year class average with the delta (change) based on the 2 year average, then B) the "Class-1" classification option using one version of a proposed multiplier, and then C) the "Class-2" classification option using what's evidently a different version of a proposed multiplier.

11 minutes ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

So am I inferring correctly that they are going to evidently be discussing 2 different options for multipliers? Because it looks to me like they're listing the A) the 2-year class average with the delta (change) based on the 2 year average, then B) the "Class-1" classification option using one version of a proposed multiplier, and then C) the "Class-2" classification option using what's evidently a different version of a proposed multiplier.

Nobody knows... It depends on who they want to make "happy" and who they "don't care". The problem started in 2006 when football lost June 7 on 7 and we went to 6 classes. It watered down everything. It's like buying your kid a new car. His first car a BMW and then you buy them a Corolla. They won't be happy. 

I don't buy my kids cars but I've seen a friend go through this. 

16 minutes ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

 

Just now, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

So am I inferring correctly that they are going to evidently be discussing 2 different options for multipliers? Because it looks to me like they're listing the A) the 2-year class average with the delta (change) based on the 2 year average, then B) the "Class-1" classification option using one version of a proposed multiplier, and then C) the "Class-2" classification option using what's evidently a different version of a proposed multiplier.

Classification Changes Based On Straight 2-year Averages (No Multipliers):
Campbellsville - UP from 1A to 2A
Central - UP from 3A to 4A
DeSales - DOWN from 3A to 2A
Doss - UP from 4A to 5A
East Ridge - DOWN from 2A to 1A
Elizabethtown - DOWN from 4A to 3A
Fairdale - UP from 5A to 6A
Floyd Central - UP from 2A to 3A
Fort Knox - DOWN from 2A to 1A
Franklin County - UP from 4A to 5A
Garrard County - UP from 3A to 4A
Hopkins County Central - UP from 3A to 4A
Lewis County - DOWN from 3A to 2A
Madisonville-North Hopkins - DOWN from 5A to 4A
Perry County Central - DOWN from 4A to 3A
Shawnee - UP from 2A to 3A
Warren East - UP from 4A to 5A
Washington County - UP from 2A to 3A
Western - DOWN from 3A to 2A

Classification Changes Based On 2-year Averages + Multiplier Option 1 ("Class-1"):
Bethlehem - UP from 1A to 2A
Betsy Layne - DOWN from 2A to 1A
Bishop Brossart - UP from 1A to 2A
Bracken County - DOWN from 2A to 1A
Christian Academy Louisville - UP from 3A to 4A
Covington Catholic - UP from 4A to 5A
Crittenden County - DOWN from 2A to 1A
Doss - UP from 4A to 5A
East Ridge - DOWN from 2A to 1A
Edmonson County - DOWN from 3A to 2A
Elizabethtown - DOWN from 4A to 3A
Fairdale - UP from 5A to 6A
Floyd Central - UP from 2A to 3A
Fort Knox - DOWN from 2A to 1A
Franklin County - UP from 4A to 5A
Garrard County - UP from 3A to 4A
Holy Cross (Covington) - UP from 1A to 2A
Hopkins County Central - UP from 3A to 4A
Kentucky Country Day - UP from 1A to 2A
Lewis County - DOWN from 3A to 2A
Lexington Catholic - UP from 3A to 4A
Lexington Christian Academy - UP from 2A to 3A
Madisonville-North Hopkins - DOWN from 5A to 4A
Magoffin County - DOWN from 3A to 2A
Perry County Central - DOWN from 4A to 3A
Sayre - UP from 1A to 2A
Shawnee - UP from 2A to 3A
St. Henry - UP from 2A to 3A
WEB DuBois - DOWN from 2A to 1A
Western - DOWN from 3A to 2A
Western Hills - DOWN from 4A to 3A

Classification Changes Based On 2-year Averages + Multiplier Option 2 ("Class-2"):
Bethlehem - UP from 1A to 2A
Betsy Layne - DOWN from 2A to 1A
Bishop Brossart - UP from 1A to 2A
Bracken County - DOWN from 2A to 1A
Christian Academy Louisville - UP from 3A to 4A
Covington Catholic - UP from 4A to 5A
Crittenden County - DOWN from 2A to 1A
Doss - UP from 4A to 5A
East Ridge - DOWN from 2A to 1A
Edmonson County - DOWN from 3A to 2A
Elizabethtown - DOWN from 4A to 3A
Fairdale - UP from 5A to 6A
Floyd Central - UP from 2A to 3A
Fort Knox - DOWN from 2A to 1A
Franklin County - UP from 4A to 5A
Garrard County - UP from 3A to 4A
Hopkins County Central - UP from 3A to 4A
Kentucky Country Day - UP from 1A to 2A
Lewis County - DOWN from 3A to 2A
Lexington Catholic - UP from 3A to 4A
Lexington Christian Academy - UP from 2A to 3A
Madisonville-North Hopkins - DOWN from 5A to 4A
Magoffin County - DOWN from 3A to 2A
Perry County Central - DOWN from 4A to 3A
Powell County - DOWN from 3A to 2A
Shawnee - UP from 2A to 3A
St. Henry - UP from 2A to 3A
WEB DuBois - DOWN from 2A to 1A
Western - DOWN from 3A to 2A
Western Hills - DOWN from 4A to 3A


RED - Programs that are changing classification, regardless of which format is adopted.
GREEN - Programs that will only change if CLASS 1 is adopted.
BLUE - Programs that will only change if CLASS 2 is adopted.

This should be a fun topic when the athletic directors meet next week at the state conference.

5 minutes ago, FootballGuy2121 said:

Add Boyle County to the multiplier while we're at it.

Quite honestly if they are going to do the multiplier's to private schools, then they should do the same for public schools for out of district students. 

26 minutes ago, futurecoach said:

Quite honestly if they are going to do the multiplier's to private schools, then they should do the same for public schools for out of district students. 

I kinda thought that all public schools had to allow out of district kids now after a law that passed in like 2021?  HB 563? "if they have room" 

11 minutes ago, AppalachianTactician said:

I kinda thought that all public schools had to allow out of district kids now after a law that passed in like 2021?  HB 563? "if they have room" 

No that's just for programs that are successful! (Sarcasm intended)

35 minutes ago, AppalachianTactician said:

I kinda thought that all public schools had to allow out of district kids now after a law that passed in like 2021?  HB 563? "if they have room" 

Possibly, but that doesn’t change what I posted. If you are going to use multipliers for private schools, since they would have kids from outside that area. Then same should be used for public schools. As it is the same concept. 
 

To me either you don’t do the multiplier at all, or if you do. Then you need to also use the same concept for public schools and out of district kids that attend their schools. 

1 hour ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

So am I inferring correctly that they are going to evidently be discussing 2 different options for multipliers? Because it looks to me like they're listing the A) the 2-year class average with the delta (change) based on the 2 year average, then B) the "Class-1" classification option using one version of a proposed multiplier, and then C) the "Class-2" classification option using what's evidently a different version of a proposed multiplier.

From looking at the agenda on the portal, they list this document about the "grouping" - https://portal.ksba.org/public/Meeting/Attachments/DisplayAttachment.aspx?AttachmentID=950614

I believe the Class-1 and Class-2 designations are related to that.  It appears the primary (only?) difference between the two is that they have 36 teams in 1A in the Class-2 designation, and allegedly only 32 in 1A in the Class-1 designation.  They advertise it as equivalent for the other classes in the Class-2 designation, but it isn't, it still has just 32 teams in 6A in that.  In the Class-1 designation, they claim it will be 32 in 1A, but their data has 34. But it is confirmation enough to me that this is likely what it is referring to because Class-2 designation in the data DOES have 36 teams.  Powell County is the only team that changes class only if Class-2 is adopted, and the additional teams in 1A appear to be why that happens, that it nudges up the numbers just enough to drop them from the smallest 3A to largest 2A.  

I would guess perhaps they might pursue the second route due to the amount of times 1A schools drop out of district play, so they wanted to create a bit of a buffer for that rather than have it at just 32? But that's pure speculation on my part. Or maybe it's because Sayre and Covington Holy Cross would be bumped up in the traditional format they've been doing but wouldn't in a 36 class 1A? Of course, Bishop Brossart is literally the next largest school above them and both plans condemn them to 2A, so who knows.

18 minutes ago, DragonFire said:

From looking at the agenda on the portal, they list this document about the "grouping" - https://portal.ksba.org/public/Meeting/Attachments/DisplayAttachment.aspx?AttachmentID=950614

I believe the Class-1 and Class-2 designations are related to that.  It appears the primary (only?) difference between the two is that they have 36 teams in 1A in the Class-2 designation, and allegedly only 32 in 1A in the Class-1 designation.  They advertise it as equivalent for the other classes in the Class-2 designation, but it isn't, it still has just 32 teams in 6A in that.  In the Class-1 designation, they claim it will be 32 in 1A, but their data has 34. But it is confirmation enough to me that this is likely what it is referring to because Class-2 designation in the data DOES have 36 teams.  Powell County is the only team that changes class only if Class-2 is adopted, and the additional teams in 1A appear to be why that happens, that it nudges up the numbers just enough to drop them from the smallest 3A to largest 2A.  

I would guess perhaps they might pursue the second route due to the amount of times 1A schools drop out of district play, so they wanted to create a bit of a buffer for that rather than have it at just 32? But that's pure speculation on my part. Or maybe it's because Sayre and Covington Holy Cross would be bumped up in the traditional format they've been doing but wouldn't in a 36 class 1A? Of course, Bishop Brossart is literally the next largest school above them and both plans condemn them to 2A, so who knows.

In one of the documents in the Board of Control agenda today shows 36 teams in 1A, 38 in 2A and 3A, 39 in 4A and 5A, and 32 in 6A. My guess is they’re hoping to avoid those playoff dropouts like you mentioned.