3 minutes ago, Buck2 said:

What head football coaches are not in the building right now in NKY? I know NCC for sure. Logistically, you have to be in the building or majority of your staff has to be in the building. 

Literally in the building or does having a position in the district count?

2 hours ago, Mr. Sixer said:

It amazes me that so many get caught up with "the coach has to be in the building". Seems funny to me when the both the current Scott boys and girls basketball coaches are "not in the building" but seem to functioning quite well. I could be wrong, but the football team has a couple of assistant coaches who ARE in the building and could very well be on staff with whomever takes over the program. The best coach, in or out of the building, should get the job, just like the basketball coaches, IMO. 

Good luck to whomever is named.

Agreed.

The days when that was your only way with communicating them? Football, at a lot of these places back in the 60's, 70's, 80's when we saw the 'consolidation boom' between:

A) Lone football playing school in the district

and

B, C, D, E, etc NON Football playing school's

I get it. It mattered. For obvious reasons. I think it matters moreso NOW if you're completely new to the district as a new coach. Validity in that I believe. 

"Recruit kids in the hall" is also overused.....the kids that need to be recruited are the basketball, baseball, wrestling, track, even soccer kids (to do both-had a few do this, and they weren't just kickers).

The 16 year old who works, doesn't play a sport, nicer truck than most of us adults and a girlfriend? There are reason(s) he's not playing anything.

Now, if he's the ONE out of every class that fits into this bill, in every class, every school? We've all went to high school, we knew/know those rare ones that don't play anything, but could actually bring something to the table.  The boys playing via THEIR relationship with you will go a longer way than the coach talking to him over and over.

The two positions that would benefit programs the most are ones that the majority still do not do.

1- Homebound

Gets the coach into literally every school K-12, due to meeting with all the teachers. Talk about building relationships?  Coach Jones goes to meet with Ms. Smith during window for School A's lunch on Monday,  Elementary School B on Tuesday, has meetings on Wednesday and Thursday at the Middle School(s) and High School during these window's & in and out of the high school on Friday's.

 

2- In School Weights

And not just in school weights, but the classes staggered specifically for baseball/basketball boys, then non major sports boys, same for girls + football all in one class.  It hits even more when their is a Male + Female teacher for these classes (Taylor County + Nelson County HS's both just started doing this).

Many many others across the state do as well...shocker, but...some household names.

If you're a "never has been" and your school(s) in the district aren't doing these & you're trying to make the climb? Especially the latter.

Sorry to be a dream killer, but that's a place that's only interested in having a football team and not a football program (bigger picture, Athletic Program vs Having Athletics). 

Big difference. 

50 minutes ago, Calico Jack said:

Literally in the building or does having a position in the district count?

Either, but they are still in the district and available. Do you think you can work in HVAC and be the head football coach of a 5a program? 

 

Announcement coming Thursday or Friday. This will be done before the break. Saw something about the banquet being tonight. My guess is they were waiting for it to be done and do it before the break.

In the building is definitely the best, for all sports.  But getting coaches jobs in the building is the extremely difficult part.  

7 hours ago, BBHCEAGLE said:

It's not so much people "being caught up" with the idea of Coach in the building. That and HC experience are criteria the Administration has put forth previously. So it's a matter of connecting previous goals of their's.

 

I believe the Boys basketball coach was there prior to the AD being hired. So he had no say in that.

Fro was Casey Fisk's first hire as AD if I remember correctly.

55 minutes ago, rjs4470 said:

Fro was Casey Fisk's first hire as AD if I remember correctly.

I thought that was the case as well.

Hearing a white plume of smoke billowing over Taylor Milll along with a chant being heard sounding like "Habemus Coach, Habemus Coach..."

7 minutes ago, BrosefStalin said:

Hearing a white plume of smoke billowing over Taylor Milll along with a chant being heard sounding like "Habemus Coach, Habemus Coach..."

For the Eagles sake, hopefully it's not a cheer of "Habemus Coach for the couple of years...three if we're lucky."

1 hour ago, rjs4470 said:

Fro was Casey Fisk's first hire as AD if I remember correctly.

He wasn't the AD at the time. 

54 minutes ago, I gotta go to work said:

He wasn't the AD at the time. 

Ken Mueller?

23 minutes ago, Runcible Owl said:

Ken Mueller?

Bill Schwartz followed Ken Mueller. Ken retired at the end of 2015. Bill was the AD for 2 or 3 years, so as I think about it, Fro was more than likely Schwartz's first hire because his first year was 2106/2017 when Scott went to the final 4. I think Casey's first big hire was Eric Turner when Woolley stepped down, and then Kevin Goins for Baseball, when Jeff Trame retired.

10 hours ago, Buck2 said:

Either, but they are still in the district and available. Do you think you can work in HVAC and be the head football coach of a 5a program? 

 

I mean, working HVAC would be an extreme example, unless that's a tie in with who they are hiring? However, OWNING your company would/could be different.

Doug Charles when he was at LCA wasn't in the building, nor is Oakley Watkins and to the best of my knowledge? None were in the building when Coach Charles was the HFC.

Ryan Johns at Union County, wasn't in the building his first few years (and, still may not be). He owned his own landscaping business if not mistaken, and still very well might (while now teaching?)

Stefan Lefors when he was at CAL was never in the building- owned his own business.

Todd Adler at Logan County (see Johns at Union). Pretty sure he's in the building/district now, but he wasn't early on.

Stephen Lickert at NewCath- if read(ing) correctly since leaving Campbell Co as HFC, didn't he remain teaching at Campbell and now has become a HS principal in Ohio this past year.

It is, however, important to note that the guys just mentioned? They weren't newbies to the program/community..except maybe Lefors? But he also had a lot of "name power". When he got named there, I doubt the kids/parents saw that and were thinking a certain scene in the beginning from Major League (the construction workers eating breakfast at the diner, reading the newly assembled roster). IYKYK ?

I'm not anti coach in the building/district, furthest thing from it, but what I am is that "recruit the halls" (in this day and age) is way overplayed. Does it mean you don't do it? No. Instead? "recruit the kids playing other sports who aren't in football".

In terms of straws that are going to help stir the drink? That's who you're after.

As for the one's you get from the "halls" who don't play anything? Every once in a while you find that needle in the haystack, but as to why you don't just quit doing that?

......Because some kids need football MORE than football needs them.

Now, THAT is THE victory(s).

Wouldn't recruit the halls be a blanket term for just recruiting every kid in the school from Drama club to the Swim team? I do think you need a hire that can and is willing to do a PR tour amongst the feeder schools and football programs year round, and is willing to open his off season and in-season workouts/practices to future players and their lower level coaches.