4 minutes ago, MaddenCurse44 said:

We all know they beat  your team Male! Last time they played! Just think if they was  physical. 

Male is my team? LOL

40 minutes ago, griddy17 said:

Name them... Go back through the last 12 years and show me the "whole bunch of teams from smaller and lower-classed schools to fill out their non-district schedule"  So out of the 7 non-district games tell me the 4 or 5 teams a year that are soft opponents.  Also name the teams outside of Trinity that they are "consistently" unable to beat.  It's easy to restate talking points without the specifics to actually back it up. 

The word "soft" is not something that I said. That's your terminology, not mine. Nor did I say "4 or 5 teams a year". Again, your words. Trying to put words into someone's mouth that they never said in the first place isn't a very sound way to win a argument.

The point I was making was that if Simon Kenton is a 6A program, they should be able to beat teams from smaller classes. When a program is performing the way it should, wins over smaller schools shouldn't be impressing anyone.

But anyway, you said 12 years. So that means we're starting with 2013 & 2014...two seasons where Simon Kenton's ENTIRE non-district schedule was against schools from lower classes. Over the last 12 regular seasons, Simon Kenton has scheduled 54 of their total 107 non-district games (50.46%) against opponents in lower classes, and 28 of those 54 lower-classed teams have been more than one class-level below Simon Kenton.

In the last 12 years, Simon Kenton is 7-6 against 6A Ryle...that's barely as marginally "consistent" as you can possibly be. In the last 12 years Simon Kenton is 0-3 against 5A/4A Cov Cath. That's not consistently beating a lower-class team. They're 0-2 against 3A Ashland. That's not consistently beating a lower-class team. They're 0-2 against 4A Johnson Central. That's not consistently beating a lower-classed team. They're 1-5 against 1A/2A Beechwood. That's not consistently beating a lower-class team.

And you're gonna be hard-pressed to convince anyone that Simon Kenton wasn't scheduling Holy Cross, Bullitt Central, New Cath, Scott, and Russell knowing damn-well that those games oughta be a slam-dunk for putting one in the W column.

I'm not restating talking points. I'm stating points. Facts. With plenty of evidence to prove them. So there you have it, complete with "the specifics to actually back it up." ?

2013
4A Collins, 2A Holy Cross, 5A Conner, 2A New Cath, 5A Cooper, 5A Bullitt Central

2014
4A Collins, 2A Holy Cross, 5A Conner, 2A New Cath, 5A Cooper, 5A Bullitt Central

2015
2A Christian Academy Louisville, 5A Dixie Heights, 5A Highlands, 4A Scott

2016
2A Christian Academy Louisville, 5A Dixie Heights, 5A Highlands, 4A Scott

2017
5A Dixie Heights, 5A Highlands, 1A Beechwood

2018
5A Highlands, 1A Beechwood

2019
5A Highlands, 3A Taylor County, 4A Johnson Central

2020
5A Highlands, 2A Walton-Verona, 4A Johnson Central, 3A Russell, 5A Covington Catholic

2021
5A Highlands, 5A Southwestern, 2A Beechwood, 4A Corbin, 5A Woodford County

2022
5A Highlands, 5A Southwestern, 2A Beechwood, 4A Corbin, 5A Woodford County

2023
5A Dixie Heights, 4A Covington Catholic, 2A Beechwood, 5A Conner, 4A Ashland

2024
5A Dixie Heights, 3A Mercer County, 4A Covington Catholic, 2A Beechwood, 5A Conner, 3A Ashland

33 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

2012 - Danville, Beechwood, Pulaski County, Holmes, NCC

2013 - Collins, Covington Holy Cross, Conner, NCC, Cooper, Bullitt Central

2014 - Collins, Covington Holy Cross, Conner, NCC, Cooper, Bullitt Central 

2015 - CAL, Conner, Highlands, Scott

2016 - CAL, Conner, Highlands, Scott

2017 - Conner, Highlands, Beechwood

2018 - Conner, Highlands, Dixie

2019 - Highlands, Taylor County, Johnson Central

2020 - Highlands, Walton-Verona, Johnson Central, Russell, CovCath

2021 - Highlands, Southwestern, Beechwood, Corbin, Woodford County

2022 - Highlands, Southwestern, Beechwood, Corbin, Woodford County

2023 - CovCath, Beechwood, Conner, Ashland Blazer

2024 - Mercer County, CovCath, Beechwood, Conner, Ashland Blazer

 

3 minutes ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

The word "soft" is not something that I said. That's your terminology, not mine. Nor did I say "4 or 5 teams a year". Again, your words. Trying to put words into someone's mouth that they never said in the first place isn't a very sound way to win a argument.

The point I was making was that if Simon Kenton is a 6A program, they should be able to beat teams from smaller classes. When a program is performing the way it should, wins over smaller schools shouldn't be impressing anyone.

But anyway, you said 12 years. So that means we're starting with 2013 & 2014...two seasons where Simon Kenton's ENTIRE non-district schedule was against schools from lower classes. Over the last 12 regular seasons, Simon Kenton has scheduled 54 of their total 107 non-district games (50.46%) against opponents in lower classes, and 28 of those 54 lower-classed teams have been more than one class-level below Simon Kenton.

In the last 12 years, Simon Kenton is 7-6 against 6A Ryle...that's barely as marginally "consistent" as you can possibly be. In the last 12 years Simon Kenton is 0-3 against 5A/4A Cov Cath. That's not consistently beating a lower-class team. They're 0-2 against 3A Ashland. That's not consistently beating a lower-class team. They're 0-2 against 4A Johnson Central. That's not consistently beating a lower-classed team. They're 1-5 against 1A/2A Beechwood. That's not consistently beating a lower-class team.

And you're gonna be hard-pressed to convince anyone that Simon Kenton wasn't scheduling Holy Cross, Bullitt Central, New Cath, Scott, and Russell knowing damn-well that those games oughta be a slam-dunk for putting one in the W column.

I'm not restating talking points. I'm stating points. Facts. With plenty of evidence to prove them. So there you have it, complete with "the specifics to actually back it up." ?

2013
4A Collins, 2A Holy Cross, 5A Conner, 2A New Cath, 5A Cooper, 5A Bullitt Central

2014
4A Collins, 2A Holy Cross, 5A Conner, 2A New Cath, 5A Cooper, 5A Bullitt Central

2015
2A Christian Academy Louisville, 5A Dixie Heights, 5A Highlands, 4A Scott

2016
2A Christian Academy Louisville, 5A Dixie Heights, 5A Highlands, 4A Scott

2017
5A Dixie Heights, 5A Highlands, 1A Beechwood

2018
5A Highlands, 1A Beechwood

2019
5A Highlands, 3A Taylor County, 4A Johnson Central

2020
5A Highlands, 2A Walton-Verona, 4A Johnson Central, 3A Russell, 5A Covington Catholic

2021
5A Highlands, 5A Southwestern, 2A Beechwood, 4A Corbin, 5A Woodford County

2022
5A Highlands, 5A Southwestern, 2A Beechwood, 4A Corbin, 5A Woodford County

2023
5A Dixie Heights, 4A Covington Catholic, 2A Beechwood, 5A Conner, 4A Ashland

2024
5A Dixie Heights, 3A Mercer County, 4A Covington Catholic, 2A Beechwood, 5A Conner, 3A Ashland

There you guys go, using over a decade of hard facts to try to talk logic.

Man, playoff football season has everyone in an uproar!!!!   let's all take a deep breath...

Still hard to argue with FACTS!!!

16 minutes ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

The word "soft" is not something that I said. That's your terminology, not mine. Nor did I say "4 or 5 teams a year". Again, your words. Trying to put words into someone's mouth that they never said in the first place isn't a very sound way to win a argument.

The point I was making was that if Simon Kenton is a 6A program, they should be able to beat teams from smaller classes. When a program is performing the way it should, wins over smaller schools shouldn't be impressing anyone.

But anyway, you said 12 years. So that means we're starting with 2013 & 2014...two seasons where Simon Kenton's ENTIRE non-district schedule was against schools from lower classes. Over the last 12 regular seasons, Simon Kenton has scheduled 54 of their total 107 non-district games (50.46%) against opponents in lower classes, and 28 of those 54 lower-classed teams have been more than one class-level below Simon Kenton.

In the last 12 years, Simon Kenton is 7-6 against 6A Ryle...that's barely as marginally "consistent" as you can possibly be. In the last 12 years Simon Kenton is 0-3 against 5A/4A Cov Cath. That's not consistently beating a lower-class team. They're 0-2 against 3A Ashland. That's not consistently beating a lower-class team. They're 0-2 against 4A Johnson Central. That's not consistently beating a lower-classed team. They're 1-5 against 1A/2A Beechwood. That's not consistently beating a lower-class team.

And you're gonna be hard-pressed to convince anyone that Simon Kenton wasn't scheduling Holy Cross, Bullitt Central, New Cath, Scott, and Russell knowing damn-well that those games oughta be a slam-dunk for putting one in the W column.

I'm not restating talking points. I'm stating points. Facts. With plenty of evidence to prove them. So there you have it, complete with "the specifics to actually back it up." ?

2013
4A Collins, 2A Holy Cross, 5A Conner, 2A New Cath, 5A Cooper, 5A Bullitt Central

2014
4A Collins, 2A Holy Cross, 5A Conner, 2A New Cath, 5A Cooper, 5A Bullitt Central

2015
2A Christian Academy Louisville, 5A Dixie Heights, 5A Highlands, 4A Scott

2016
2A Christian Academy Louisville, 5A Dixie Heights, 5A Highlands, 4A Scott

2017
5A Dixie Heights, 5A Highlands, 1A Beechwood

2018
5A Highlands, 1A Beechwood

2019
5A Highlands, 3A Taylor County, 4A Johnson Central

2020
5A Highlands, 2A Walton-Verona, 4A Johnson Central, 3A Russell, 5A Covington Catholic

2021
5A Highlands, 5A Southwestern, 2A Beechwood, 4A Corbin, 5A Woodford County

2022
5A Highlands, 5A Southwestern, 2A Beechwood, 4A Corbin, 5A Woodford County

2023
5A Dixie Heights, 4A Covington Catholic, 2A Beechwood, 5A Conner, 4A Ashland

2024
5A Dixie Heights, 3A Mercer County, 4A Covington Catholic, 2A Beechwood, 5A Conner, 3A Ashland

 

13 minutes ago, TylerDurden said:

 

There you guys go, using over a decade of hard facts to try to talk logic.

I mean I should know better, but, here we are. ?

19 minutes ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

The word "soft" is not something that I said. That's your terminology, not mine. Nor did I say "4 or 5 teams a year". Again, your words. Trying to put words into someone's mouth that they never said in the first place isn't a very sound way to win a argument.

The point I was making was that if Simon Kenton is a 6A program, they should be able to beat teams from smaller classes. When a program is performing the way it should, wins over smaller schools shouldn't be impressing anyone.

But anyway, you said 12 years. So that means we're starting with 2013 & 2014...two seasons where Simon Kenton's ENTIRE non-district schedule was against schools from lower classes. Over the last 12 regular seasons, Simon Kenton has scheduled 54 of their total 107 non-district games (50.46%) against opponents in lower classes, and 28 of those 54 lower-classed teams have been more than one class-level below Simon Kenton.

In the last 12 years, Simon Kenton is 7-6 against 6A Ryle...that's barely as marginally "consistent" as you can possibly be. In the last 12 years Simon Kenton is 0-3 against 5A/4A Cov Cath. That's not consistently beating a lower-class team. They're 0-2 against 3A Ashland. That's not consistently beating a lower-class team. They're 0-2 against 4A Johnson Central. That's not consistently beating a lower-classed team. They're 1-5 against 1A/2A Beechwood. That's not consistently beating a lower-class team.

And you're gonna be hard-pressed to convince anyone that Simon Kenton wasn't scheduling Holy Cross, Bullitt Central, New Cath, Scott, and Russell knowing damn-well that those games oughta be a slam-dunk for putting one in the W column.

I'm not restating talking points. I'm stating points. Facts. With plenty of evidence to prove them. So there you have it, complete with "the specifics to actually back it up." ?

2013
4A Collins, 2A Holy Cross, 5A Conner, 2A New Cath, 5A Cooper, 5A Bullitt Central

2014
4A Collins, 2A Holy Cross, 5A Conner, 2A New Cath, 5A Cooper, 5A Bullitt Central

2015
2A Christian Academy Louisville, 5A Dixie Heights, 5A Highlands, 4A Scott

2016
2A Christian Academy Louisville, 5A Dixie Heights, 5A Highlands, 4A Scott

2017
5A Dixie Heights, 5A Highlands, 1A Beechwood

2018
5A Highlands, 1A Beechwood

2019
5A Highlands, 3A Taylor County, 4A Johnson Central

2020
5A Highlands, 2A Walton-Verona, 4A Johnson Central, 3A Russell, 5A Covington Catholic

2021
5A Highlands, 5A Southwestern, 2A Beechwood, 4A Corbin, 5A Woodford County

2022
5A Highlands, 5A Southwestern, 2A Beechwood, 4A Corbin, 5A Woodford County

2023
5A Dixie Heights, 4A Covington Catholic, 2A Beechwood, 5A Conner, 4A Ashland

2024
5A Dixie Heights, 3A Mercer County, 4A Covington Catholic, 2A Beechwood, 5A Conner, 3A Ashland

Man, you come for the King, you best not miss....

Just now, TheDeuce said:

I mean I should know better, but, here we are. ?

IKR!

As a long time member here at BGP ? I have learned to be careful who I pick a "fight" with. 

Just now, uninformedexpert said:

Man, you come for the King, you best not miss....

I felt that @uninformedexpert!

5 minutes ago, uninformedexpert said:

Man, you come for the King, you best not miss....

Rookies... Smh. 

Poor little Highlands.  Don’t bother scheduling them. You’ll get slammed for your soft schedule.   

LOL. 

25 minutes ago, mcpapa said:

Poor little Highlands.  Don’t bother scheduling them. You’ll get slammed for your soft schedule.   

LOL. 

Same with schools like CAL, Beechwood, Corbin, Johnson Central, Southwestern, Woodford, and Ashland.

For the record, I like Simon Kenton's schedule over the years. 

Don’t schedule Corbin or CovCath either. Pantywaists. 
 

In all seriousness, we all get a kick out of this stuff.  SK is very much a middle of the road 6A team.   The vast majority of the time, they’re not really competitive with the 6A upper crust.  
 

So how do they schedule?   I’ve always believed that beyond the necessity of the district games, schedule a couple of games you should win, schedule a couple you shouldn’t, and a couple or three more that should be tossups.  Schedule teams with different strengths so you can identify your own weaknesses.  Consequently, school size in and of itself shouldn’t be the be-all and end-all of scheduling.   
 

Heaven knows I have no allegiance to Simon Kenton.   But an inconvenient truth for them is that there are precious few 6A schools less than a three-hour round trip away.   
 

Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled programming.  It’s always enjoyable. 

6 minutes ago, theguru said:

Same with schools like CAL, Beechwood, Corbin, Johnson Central, Southwestern, Woodford, and Ashland.

For the record, I like Simon Kenton's schedule over the years. 

You beat me to it.   I was wrapped up in verbosity during your cogent reply. 

3 minutes ago, mcpapa said:

So how do they schedule?   I’ve always believed that beyond the necessity of the district games, schedule a couple of games you should win, schedule a couple you shouldn’t, and a couple or three more that should be tossups.  Schedule teams with different strengths so you can identify your own weaknesses.  Consequently, school size in and of itself shouldn’t be the be-all and end-all of scheduling.   

This!