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Temper Tantrums

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4 hours ago, cincyswords said:

A little clarity on this.  Coach suspended him 2 games.

One of those is this weekend which is senior night.

His parent(s) want him to be able to be recognized as a senior on the team.  They are not asking to be allowed to play.  They had no beef with the 2 game suspension.

Social media now being used to pressure coach into letting him walk and be recognized as a senior since next week he will be suited back up and playing anyway.  I have read through several posts on FB and nobody is asking that he be allowed to play, but there is a huge groundswell of support to let him be recognized as a senior member of the team.  This is now becoming a major issue over the whole being "recognized on senior night."  School admin and coach on same page but boy they are getting abused.

He embarrassed his team, his school and his city. You don’t not get that right. 

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  • Kenny Powers
    Kenny Powers

    As an outsider to this situation a couple thoughts:  1. Once the decision is made to suspend the player for 2 games, the coach can't back track at this point. If he does, he loses all credibility

  • Tigerpride94
    Tigerpride94

    I think they're should be a form of penalty such as suspension. I think these are also kids that make mistakes and if contrite and want to be a good team mate they should get a 2nd chance. If after 2n

  • BrosefStalin
    BrosefStalin

    I think we sometimes forget that these young men are still kids. The correct thing to do here IMO is to ensure he doesn't play for two games, but allow him to walk in senior night events. Then, even m

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I get he is young, but to publicly embarrass your team and carry on the way he did can not go unpunished. 
 

If you let him walk then he gets to walk in dress pants and a team shirt. He needs to earn that jersey back, earn the respect back from his team and coaches. 
 

Teams can’t let this behavior happen. 

5 hours ago, wrn1979 said:

It’s this generation. They watch the fools in the NCAA/NBA/MLB/NFL…whatever sport it is…do the same thing, and they think that’s how they’re going to behave. 

Then that is the parents' fault, not the "fools" in professional sports...

1 hour ago, 1Forrest1 said:

I get he is young, but to publicly embarrass your team and carry on the way he did can not go unpunished. 
 

If you let him walk then he gets to walk in dress pants and a team shirt. He needs to earn that jersey back, earn the respect back from his team and coaches. 
 

Teams can’t let this behavior happen. 

He embarrassed himself, and possibly his family. He’s also not the first person to do something like this, nor will he be the last. Deal with it and move on. Being overly and unnecessarily punitive for the sake of “teaching him a lesson” isn’t productive either. Since I’m not familiar with, or part of the situation, I have no idea how it needs to be “dealt with”. 

6 hours ago, wrn1979 said:

It’s this generation. They watch the fools in the NCAA/NBA/MLB/NFL…whatever sport it is…do the same thing, and they think that’s how they’re going to behave. 

Great point.  Other generations never had these issues.  

Knowing the right next step is as simple as seeing how contrite the player is.  If so, then some of the suggestions made so far should work fine.

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2 hours ago, rjs4470 said:

He embarrassed himself, and possibly his family. He’s also not the first person to do something like this, nor will he be the last. Deal with it and move on. Being overly and unnecessarily punitive for the sake of “teaching him a lesson” isn’t productive either. Since I’m not familiar with, or part of the situation, I have no idea how it needs to be “dealt with”. 

 

What would you do if you were a coach? Put yourself in the coaches position. This is what I am asking? 

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4 hours ago, bulldog77 said:

Suspension stands.  Apology directly to his teammates.   He walks on senior night but, sorry, no jersey to wear.  He forfeited that right for the two week suspension.  Yes, kids make mistakes and show bad judgement.  Another chance is absolutely warranted if there is true contrition and a desire to "make it right," but there are consequences to your actions.  

2 hours ago, nkypete said:

Knowing the right next step is as simple as seeing how contrite the player is.  If so, then some of the suggestions made so far should work fine.

These two tend to feel like I would react in the situation if I were making the call. Obviously, I'm not the coach or the administrators. I don't know how this young man acts day-to-day. If this was a kid who generally has been working his tail off at practice each day and just ended up boiling over at the game and made a regrettable decision, then sure, let him walk (but not play) on senior night.

There are a lot of unknowns about this situation that make it tough for any of us to speak directly. We have no clue what's going on in his home life or what he's been dealing with in his life. Things like that need to be taken into account by the coach and administrators when they decide on how to handle all of this. His attitude after the fact should be taken into account too. If he's just expecting to get to walk back into the locker room the day after the game and be treated as if nothing happened, then that's something that isn't going to fly.

@bulldog77 is right, there are consequences to our actions. If this young man is a senior, he's got to learn that lesson soon. That doesn't mean, as a 17 or even 18 year old, that there shouldn't be some consideration taken of all the circumstances that could or have played into what he did.

15 minutes ago, MaddenCurse44 said:

What school?

That is not necessary information here. The only use that serves is in trying to identify the player, which doesn't need to happen.

This is a behavioral issue that should be handled by the school. We can discuss it as a hypothetical "what would you do", but we don't need to get into names.

5 hours ago, TheDeuce said:

Then that is the parents' fault, not the "fools" in professional sports...

I agree with this statement. It’s 100% lack of parenting or lack of parents.

3 hours ago, 1Forrest1 said:

 

What would you do if you were a coach? Put yourself in the coaches position. This is what I am asking? 

I don’t know. I don’t know enough about the situation. I have been coaching for close to 20 years, and while I haven’t had something like this happen, I know I do handle things on a case by case basis. Too many variables at play that I simply don’t know.

I have followed this topic on social media since it happened.
 

There is a lot of things going on that are not mentioned here.
 

The Superintendent of Schools told him to leave the Stadium. He was told by the coach that he needed to speak to the Superintendent for his Punishment, he was suspended 2 games, one which happens to fall on Senior Night. 
 

I stick with the Superintendent  in suspension, he can return after two weeks, after a sit down with parents, coach and player. He starts off at a Level the coach sees fit.   He needs to build his trust with the players and coach again. 
 

it’s Newton’s 3rd Law, Every Action has an Even and Opposite Reaction. 
This is what happens when you chose to do what you did, you forfeit the activities for 2 weeks. 

 

9 hours ago, Bluebirdbath said:

I have followed this topic on social media since it happened.
 

There is a lot of things going on that are not mentioned here.
 

The Superintendent of Schools told him to leave the Stadium. He was told by the coach that he needed to speak to the Superintendent for his Punishment, he was suspended 2 games, one which happens to fall on Senior Night. 
 

I stick with the Superintendent  in suspension, he can return after two weeks, after a sit down with parents, coach and player. He starts off at a Level the coach sees fit.   He needs to build his trust with the players and coach again. 
 

it’s Newton’s 3rd Law, Every Action has an Even and Opposite Reaction. 
This is what happens when you chose to do what you did, you forfeit the activities for 2 weeks. 

 

The fact  that the Superintendent has even interjected himself into athletics speaks volumes about what is going on.....

17 hours ago, bulldog77 said:

Suspension stands.  Apology directly to his teammates.   He walks on senior night but, sorry, no jersey to wear.  He forfeited that right for the two week suspension.  Yes, kids make mistakes and show bad judgement.  Another chance is absolutely warranted if there is true contrition and a desire to "make it right," but there are consequences to your actions.  

This is likely spot on. I agree after reading this. 

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