Careful with that broad brush again. I'm not in a position to look down on anyone, and certainly haven't demeaned anyone in any of these posts. My dad was way smarter and more well rounded than me and he never graduated from high school.

 

Im refering to the news reports about the uneducated whites they keep refering to. Why do you take everything so personal. No one is attacking you it's a conversation. Sensitive nancy.. Lol

Trump won because the democratic candidate lost 7 million votes from 2012 to 2016. The republican candidate also lost votes from 2012, but not nearly the magnitude that the democrats lost.

 

Now you have to ask yourself WHY. Who exactly were those 7 million people who didn't come out and vote. Were they women? Men? White? Black? etc etc.

 

My guess is that the majority of those 7 million people who didn't turnout were black voters...probably because the biggest reason they turned out in 2008 and 2012 was because there was a black candidate.

 

The solution seems pretty simple for the democrats. Run a black candidate in 2020 and you'll probably win. Run somebody else and you'll have to actually try and win over white voters instead of preaching that the other party is racist, sexist, and non tolerant.

Trump won because the democratic candidate lost 7 million votes from 2012 to 2016. The republican candidate also lost votes from 2012, but not nearly the magnitude that the democrats lost.

 

Now you have to ask yourself WHY. Who exactly were those 7 million people who didn't come out and vote. Were they women? Men? White? Black? etc etc.

 

My guess is that the majority of those 7 million people who didn't turnout were black voters...probably because the biggest reason they turned out in 2008 and 2012 was because there was a black candidate.

 

My guess is the World War I voters from those years didn't show up this time..

Trump won because the democratic candidate lost 7 million votes from 2012 to 2016. The republican candidate also lost votes from 2012, but not nearly the magnitude that the democrats lost.

 

Now you have to ask yourself WHY. Who exactly were those 7 million people who didn't come out and vote. Were they women? Men? White? Black? etc etc.

 

My guess is that the majority of those 7 million people who didn't turnout were black voters...probably because the biggest reason they turned out in 2008 and 2012 was because there was a black candidate.

 

The solution seems pretty simple for the democrats. Run a black candidate in 2020 and you'll probably win. Run somebody else and you'll have to actually try and win over white voters instead of preaching that the other party is racist, sexist, and non tolerant.

 

Excellent post!

Why are we debating the legitimacy of post election data, from the same idiots that gave us the WRONG pre-election data?

Any female who voted from him, must not mind being disrespacted time and time again.

 

This campaign started with hateful divisive rhetoric and false polling numbers from the MSM, 24/7 and a candidate that shot himself in the foot a number of times who was not a politician. Someone's words spoken in private, in a conversation about who can pee the farthest, with no intention of acting upon their braggadocio, affects me not one bit. In my presence, it is a totally different matter. Ask my five brothers, four brothers in law, two sons, four grandsons and Papaw, I will not tolerate it and in that I am respected. These are the people who matter to me. I was voting for a President not a Priest. And one who will always keep America first. What I think he is not: is a sex offender, homophobe, misogynist, racist,rapist or anti-Muslim. Sometimes he can be "A male chauvinist pig". I hope he is a successful President because America is divided, hurting badly and with a military that is desperately in need of new equipment, in a world with people who want to annihilate us. Folks I know the losers are hurting badly and the winners are happy and the MSM are trying to pit us against each other with non-stop talking heads whose only interest is to keep the chaos going. Americans are blessed with a wonderful country and we need to work together to help this President succeed in spite of the hateful rhetoric coming from MSM.

Even with her flaws, she was eminently qualified. The fact that you or many others don't like her doesn't mean she lacked the qualifications.

 

Please list her qualifications outside of being First Lady of Arkansas and the First Lady and a lawyer.

 

Everything she has gotten has been because she is in the political class.

I am a white, college educated woman. I have also been around the block a few times. Trump was not my ideal candidate but I voted for him. Yes, he is obnoxious and likely sexist. However, he is the one person who can shake up Washington and send the message that we are tired of politics as usual. I don't believe he is any more sexist than HRC's own husband, or many other male politicians. Trump just runs his mouth, which doesn't bother me. I find it somewhat refreshing.

 

I can put up with that in order to see the bigger picture. To me HRC was also a very unlikeable person. IMO, she was a liar who felt she was owed the office. She ran for office on the donations of people she would owe once she was in office. To think that I should vote for her simply because she is a woman is insulting to all women. We can think for ourselves.

 

WOW!!! This about sums it up, thread could have been closed following this post.

 

BTW, the 4 females in my house, not one was for Hillary, and only 2 for Trump.

 

Also, I only have some college, and I'm one of the smartest people I know. :lol2:

I had really hoped this would be a discussion about what the author actually wrote, and some stimulating conversation about how both parties can improve their relationshis with women. Because while women voted for Pres. Trump this go around, it's apparent that just when everyone thinks they have women pegged politically, it never turns out to be that accurate.

 

Could we maybe talk about that?

I saw the post-election breakdown that showed Hillary won the female vote by about the same margin as Trump won the male vote; what I'd love see is the difference in support of the "educated and experienced" women (by that I mean women who are not only educated, but those that have life experience beyond the "safe zones" on the elite metro area colleges) for the two candidates?

 

Guessing by the end result that women didn't support Hillary as much as the media establishment would have you believe? My gut tells me that a lot more women than expected thought deeper than the historic implication of a first female President? As many said, "I'm all for a woman President, just not this one"!!!!

Any female who voted from him, must not mind being disrespacted time and time again.

Overall turnout among women was only 1 percentage point higher than in 2012. Clinton didn't resonate with them. Maybe they felt Hillary's protection of Bill for all his disrespectful acts toward woman were far worse than what Trump said.

I had really hoped this would be a discussion about what the author actually wrote, and some stimulating conversation about how both parties can improve their relationshis with women. Because while women voted for Pres. Trump this go around, it's apparent that just when everyone thinks they have women pegged politically, it never turns out to be that accurate.

 

Could we maybe talk about that?

 

Maybe you hit on something here, just not what you expected. It seems that a lot of people are tired of the 'elitists' class that wishes to lord over the masses. There is a large group of people who do not see this and this article hit a nerve of those who oppose the 'elitists'. Something HRC's supporters do not see or understand.

Maybe you hit on something here, just not what you expected. It seems that a lot of people are tired of the 'elitists' class that wishes to lord over the masses. There is a large group of people who do not see this and this article hit a nerve of those who oppose the 'elitists'. Something HRC's supporters do not see or understand.

 

I hear you. This thread spews the idea that women and men are tired of the elitist who look down on them from the ivory towers.

 

Except....:whistling:

We just elected a billionaire who loves in a tower.

 

 

@Run To State I agree with what you said. Do you think if she would have divorced Bill in say 2006 she would have had a better chance?

 

 

@Run To State I agree with what you said. Do you think if she would have divorced Bill in say 2006 she would have had a better chance?

If she would have mentioned part of her reasons for divorcing him was that she could no longer live with the sexist, womanizing things Bill did to women; yes. Distancing herself from him and his deplorable actions would have gotten her more votes IMO, especially from white women. She still would have had to deal with the email scandal and Benghazi, but I felt from the first time she ran that Bill was an albatross around her neck.

Women have come a long way. Heck, they only started voting in the 1920s? Today, women can do anything they want, including, "collectively" choosing their candidate and getting out to polls to vote for said candidate.