The choice basically comes down to the known(Clinton) or the unknown(Trump).

 

1. Clinton - The country is pretty much going to continue down the same path it is currently on. Big lobbyists, financial backers and special interest groups will still be in control and the national debt will continue totally out of control.

 

2. Trump - I really have no idea, it could be better or it could get worse. Most of the big money donors are in the Clinton camp, so at least Trump would not be beholden to them, which is one thing in his favor. Other countries would be less likely to try and push the U.S. around like they currently do, just because they have have no idea what his reaction might be.

Ummm, not sure if you have seen the most recent dude to occupy the big white building on Penn Ave, but he's gotten pretty good at this one....

 

Which is why I included O'Bama as an example--see the section you bolded. The Donald's rhetoric indicates his intention to even trump O'Bama when it comes to a power grab. To do what he says he will do, "really fast", indicates he is going to take unilateral decision-making and action to an entirely new level. That is the wrong direction for this country!

 

The choice basically comes down to the known(Clinton) or the unknown(Trump).

 

1. Clinton - The country is pretty much going to continue down the same path it is currently on. Big lobbyists, financial backers and special interest groups will still be in control and the national debt will continue totally out of control.

 

2. Trump - I really have no idea, it could be better or it could get worse. Most of the big money donors are in the Clinton camp, so at least Trump would not be beholden to them, which is one thing in his favor. Other countries would be less likely to try and push the U.S. around like they currently do, just because they have have no idea what his reaction might be.

 

What a sad state of affairs we find ourselves in and we have only ourselves to blame.

She has been the cnn Republican attack dog. She started out I think on the Jeb bush team. When he started losing she really went after Trump and has'ent let up.

 

Navarro is a Republican? I just assumed she was a Democrat the way she was ranting on CNN last night. Shows you how little attention I pay to these TV commentators. If she is a Republican then the CNN panel last night looked to me like three Republicans one Democrat and two more moderate analyst commentators, but perhaps one or two of those moderates are Democrats also. Otherwise CNN's panel was tilted towards Republicans after the speech last night

Navarro is a Republican? I just assumed she was a Democrat the way she was ranting on CNN last night. Shows you how little attention I pay to these TV commentators. If she is a Republican then the CNN panel last night looked to me like three Republicans one Democrat and two more moderate analyst commentators, but perhaps one or two of those moderates are Democrats also. Otherwise CNN's panel was tilted towards Republicans after the speech last night

 

Well, she's a Hispanic Woman who supported Jeb. I don't know anyone who would hate Trump more than her...Even democrats.

I heard a guy who wants to be president for me and all Americans, wants clean up the current Washington we have, turn our trade deals and economy to the favor of us. Stronger stance on ISIS and terrorism in general. Every kid having a chance to be the best they can be no matter where they live.

 

I can't parse his whole speech on my phone, but I'm not scared because I'm "white", if anyone thinks police getting murdered in the broad day light is not an attack on all Americans then we're beyond fixing.

 

I listed specifics that would say he's not interested in being POTUS for ALL Americans that you didn't refute.

 

How likely do you think he can change the existing trade deals? How long will it take? Will it be very fast like he stated last night?

 

What can he do as far as getting rid of the ISIS problem?

 

Best they can be no matter where they live? Sounds like something HRC might say.

 

Who said anything about police getting attacked?

 

I listed off very specific items that you said you disagreed with. I'm cool with that. All I'm asking for is specifics for discussion purposes.

Jon Stewart rakes Hannity over the coals.

 

 

 

Jon Stewart comes out of retirement to unload on Trump supporters | TheHill

 

Who cares? Stewart is a bigger blowhard than Trump with an ego to match. Oh, and he seems to think he's funny, never has been.

I listed specifics that would say he's not interested in being POTUS for ALL Americans that you didn't refute.

 

How likely do you think he can change the existing trade deals? How long will it take? Will it be very fast like he stated last night?

 

What can he do as far as getting rid of the ISIS problem?

 

Best they can be no matter where they live? Sounds like something HRC might say.

 

Who said anything about police getting attacked?

 

I listed off very specific items that you said you disagreed with. I'm cool with that. All I'm asking for is specifics for discussion purposes.

 

1. Trade deals - I'm not sure how you get out of them, or how long it may take. Any new trade deals have to be fair for the American work force. This should be in trump's wheel house

 

2. Isis - I had given the Obama plan the benefit of doubt until it came to our streets. We need to put them on the defensive rather than allowing them to plan and inspire others.

3. Best they can be - making education better for all our kids not just a select few. Of course HRC could and will say this.

4. Police attack - we had a peaceful protest in one of larger cities and police were murdered in broad daylight. That's crime in our streets that we as a country should not tolerate.

 

I've wanted the country to be ran more like a business for many years (ie Ross Perot). Trump has ran a successful business for many years, maybe just maybe he can hire the best of the best to cleanup government waste and mismanagement.

 

I appreciate open discussion, I respect any and all that want to vote for HRC or any of the candidates.

Navarro is a Republican? I just assumed she was a Democrat the way she was ranting on CNN last night. Shows you how little attention I pay to these TV commentators. If she is a Republican then the CNN panel last night looked to me like three Republicans one Democrat and two more moderate analyst commentators, but perhaps one or two of those moderates are Democrats also. Otherwise CNN's panel was tilted towards Republicans after the speech last night

 

Yes, she's a Republican but probably as anti-Trump as you will find. When Trump criticized the Latino judge, she flew into a rage and has been raging ever since.

Jon Stewart rakes Hannity over the coals.

 

 

 

Jon Stewart comes out of retirement to unload on Trump supporters | TheHill

 

It's like he never left. He was brilliant. Multiple laugh out loud moments.

Here goes. The fake roll call on Monday and Cruz's speech were both done to embarrass Trump. Melanie's speech was lovely and I don't care if 3 sentences or 30 were taken from Michelle's. McIver has worked with Trump on a couple of his books. I believe that Trump sincerely wants to make our country better and will not hand off the job to someone else, he may have a lot of authorities on different subjects but the buck will stop with him. I really liked Kasich and this week was petty and I have no support for him. Cruz has tarnished his brand greatly with his display. When someone like Sheldon Adelson refuses to allow you in his suite, that's a pretty big indicator that you're done. As with Trump, I have some things I disagree with and some with Pence, but overall I like both of them. I don't really care about petty side items criticized, like plagiarism ad nauseam and fashion designers, and little digs on certain speakers. I liked all the Trump children's speeches. Trump's speech had some good points but ran a little long. You all know I'm a Conservative Catholic and this time I cannot vote Democrat for Hillary under any circumstances, people she perjured herself to the F.B.I. One thing so important for me this election, Trump and Hillary can only serve at most 8 years but the Supreme Court Justices are for life and I want them appointed by a Republican. True that doesn't guarantee anything, look at Roberts, but at least I voted. McPapa sorry your disdain for the think differently button, Hellcats LMAO you don't have feelings, Science Friction we are like oil and water but every once in a while we agree, Rockmom and Clyde and PP92 and UKMF we have different life philosophies but we can discuss. And pundits are a joke, they're for whomever gets them the most money. I don't watch news channels except for Greta some Hannity but I do watch CSPAN and Fox Business and do a lot of reading. There's my week's summation and there were a lot of dislikes. If you want a specific answer, ask but I think I got most of them. On to Philadelphia and I'll try to stay online to discuss even if I hit that button. :thumb: I am just thankful I live in a country where you can express your opinion freely. And I am so grateful my son is home from Germany.

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To be fair, it's probably really hard to find 4 pundits for Trump...

 

You can't find what you don't look for.:sarcastic:

Here goes. The fake roll call on Monday and Cruz's speech were both done to embarrass Trump. Melanie's speech was lovely and I don't care if 3 sentences or 30 were taken from Michelle's. McIver has worked with Trump on a couple of his books. I believe that Trump sincerely wants to make our country better and will not hand off the job to someone else, he may have a lot of authorities on different subjects but the buck will stop with him. I really liked Kasich and this week was petty and I have no support for him. Cruz has tarnished his brand greatly with his display. When someone like Sheldon Adelson refuses to allow you in his suite, that's a pretty big indicator that you're done. As with Trump, I have some things I disagree with and some with Pence, but overall I like both of them. I don't really care about petty side items criticized, like plagiarism ad nauseam and fashion designers, and little digs on certain speakers. I liked all the Trump children's speeches. Trump's speech had some good points but ran a little long. You all know I'm a Conservative Catholic and this time I cannot vote Democrat for Hillary under any circumstances, people she perjured herself to the F.B.I. One thing so important for me this election, Trump and Hillary can only serve at most 8 years but the Supreme Court Justices are for life and I want them appointed by a Republican. True that doesn't guarantee anything, look at Roberts, but at least I voted. McPapa sorry your disdain for the think differently button, Hellcats LMAO you don't have feelings, Science Friction we are like oil and water but every once in a while we agree, Rockmom and Clyde and PP92 and UKMF we have different life philosophies but we can discuss. And pundits are a joke, they're for whomever gets them the most money. I don't watch news channels except for Greta some Hannity but I do watch CSPAN and Fox Business and do a lot of reading. There's my week's summation and there were a lot of dislikes. If you want a specific answer, ask but I think I got most of them. On to Philadelphia and I'll try to stay online to discuss even if I hit that button. :thumb: I am just thankful I live in a country where you can express your opinion freely. And I am so grateful my son is home from Germany.

 

I knew if one of us went on long enough we would find a patch of common ground!:thumb:

I knew if one of us went on long enough we would find a patch of common ground!:thumb:

 

I am finally feeling better and hope we can have a fair discussion about what our country needs, in a world of dangerous and changing times.

Who cares? Stewart is a bigger blowhard than Trump with an ego to match. Oh, and he seems to think he's funny, never has been.

 

Bill Maher Jr.

Unfunny idiot

Is it still the 90s?

 

Easy now not trying to rile my opposition, just saying generally when politicians flip flop it's criticized. I'm sure you remember that with Kerry. But change is necessary, when you need votes.