February 29, 201610 yr He had already murdered his wife prior to officers arrival. Then waited to ambush the officers that were coming to help. If this is true, then was this not a " declaration of war" on the responding officers?
February 29, 201610 yr If this is true, then was this not a " declaration of war" on the responding officers? I'd say he knew they were coming and he knew he wanted to kill them for no other reason than the fact that they were coming.
February 29, 201610 yr Most dangerous call an officer routinely goes on. I'm glad both of our local departments have a 2 officer policy when it comes to responding to any domestic calls. When my dad was still an active police officer, he told me the call he HATED the most were domestic calls. Very volatile, dangerous situations...
February 29, 201610 yr The alleged shooter was an Army sgt. assigned to duty at the Pentagon. Pentagon says employee is suspect in killing of rookie officer Ashley Guindon - Story | WTTG
February 29, 201610 yr If this is true, then was this not a " declaration of war" on the responding officers? Just premeditated murder.
February 29, 201610 yr Really sad, hard for me to understand anyone shooting anyone whether they are an officer or civilian.
February 29, 201610 yr Just premeditated murder. Can you prove that when all this started, he planned on killing anyone? Or did he just snap and kill his wife and a little later started shooting at police because his mental state was way out of wack? I'm not defending the guy at all! This is a horrible tragedy. But i wouldn't call it premeditated murder unless there is evidence to back that up! usually when premeditated murder is the case, the killer KNOWS specifically who he/she is going to kill. This person had no idea which officers were responding. Therefore it was his "war' with any LEO that showed up. I'm not saying in a whole that he had long-standing war on LEO's. Nor am i saying he was he a part of a bigger war on officers of the law. But at this time he was shooting at police officers it was his own battle, maybe not a war per the dictionary term. Edited February 29, 201610 yr by #99 Misspelled word
February 29, 201610 yr Can you prove that when all this started, he planned on killing anyone? Or did he just snap and kill his wife and a little later started shooting at police because his mental state was way out of wack? I'm not defending the guy at all! This is a horrible tragedy. But i wouldn't call it premeditated murder unless there is evidence to back that up! usually when premeditated murder is the case, the killer KNOWS specifically who he/she is going to kill. This person had no idea which officers were responding. Therefore it was his "war' with any LEO that showed up. I'm not saying in a whole that he had long-standing war on LEO's. Nor am i saying he was he a part of a bigger war on officers of the law. But at this time he was shooting at police officers it was his own battle, maybe not a war per the dictionary term. I don't think I can prove much from my keyboard a few hundred miles away.
February 29, 201610 yr Can you prove that when all this started, he planned on killing anyone? Or did he just snap and kill his wife and a little later started shooting at police because his mental state was way out of wack? I'm not defending the guy at all! This is a horrible tragedy. But i wouldn't call it premeditated murder unless there is evidence to back that up! usually when premeditated murder is the case, the killer KNOWS specifically who he/she is going to kill. This person had no idea which officers were responding. Therefore it was his "war' with any LEO that showed up. I'm not saying in a whole that he had long-standing war on LEO's. Nor am i saying he was he a part of a bigger war on officers of the law. But at this time he was shooting at police officers it was his own battle, maybe not a war per the dictionary term. Let's see, shot the wife, had plenty of time to consider what his next course of action was, knowing that police were headed his direction. How much time qualifies as premeditation?
February 29, 201610 yr Can you prove that when all this started, he planned on killing anyone? Or did he just snap and kill his wife and a little later started shooting at police because his mental state was way out of wack? I'm not defending the guy at all! This is a horrible tragedy. But i wouldn't call it premeditated murder unless there is evidence to back that up! usually when premeditated murder is the case, the killer KNOWS specifically who he/she is going to kill. This person had no idea which officers were responding. Therefore it was his "war' with any LEO that showed up. I'm not saying in a whole that he had long-standing war on LEO's. Nor am i saying he was he a part of a bigger war on officers of the law. But at this time he was shooting at police officers it was his own battle, maybe not a war per the dictionary term. Exactly. This strikes me as a "going out in a blaze, they'll never take me alive" moment. Not a "I hate the police and I am going to kill all of the police" moment. Sadly, I think people wish there was a war on LEOs just so they can say there is a war on LEOs. All of these incidents seem more like troubled people with real issues and not people who are waging a war on LEOs.
February 29, 201610 yr Exactly. This strikes me as a "going out in a blaze, they'll never take me alive" moment. Not a "I hate the police and I am going to kill all of the police" moment. Sadly, I think people wish there was a war on LEOs just so they can say there is a war on LEOs. All of these incidents seem more like troubled people with real issues and not people who are waging a war on LEOs. While I agree with you on the LEO commentary, he didn't go out in a "blaze of glory" cause he surrendered. When we see stereotypes thrown out in these stories, we quickly headline BLM in war vs LEO, or Muslims killing LEO. What about Army Non Coms killing LEO? This guy is in the military service but we don't think all soldiers and vets are on a rampage, do we?
February 29, 201610 yr When my dad was still an active police officer, he told me the call he HATED the most were domestic calls. Very volatile, dangerous situations... The officer killed in Fargo a couple weeks ago was responding to a domestic.
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