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NKy Football Coaches irked at plan

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Coach Lickert gets it...that's for sure.:thumb:

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What's the cut-off from 3A to 4A?

I am confused with the whole Highlands situation. I was comparing numbers, and it does not match up. In Sandman32's list he has just about everyone right....except Highlands, Taylor Co, and Mason Co. He has them in 4a with 9 schools behind them.

 

423 Highlands

422 Atherton

422 Bell County

421 Warren East

419 East Ridge

409 Mason County

408 Lone Oak

408 Muhlenberg North

400 Larue County

399 Taylor County

 

However the KHSAA has them in 3a, but those 9 "smaller schools in 4a.

 

CLASS 4A

District-4-1- Calloway County, Hopkins County Central, Lone Oak, Muhlenberg NorthDistrict-4-2- Allen County-Scottsville, Franklin-Simpson, Logan County, Russell County, Warren East

District-4-3- Atherton, Breckinridge County, Fairdale, Valley, Western

District-4-4- Bullitt East, Larue County, Marion County, North Bullitt

District-4-5- Bourbon County, Covington Catholic, Harrison County, Pendleton County

District-4-6- Boyle County, East Jessamine, Franklin County, Lexington Catholic, West Jessamine

District-4-7- Bell County, Knox Central, Madison Southern, McCreary Central, Rockcastle County

District-4-8- Boyd County, Greenup County, Lawrence County, Rowan County

 

Unless the numbers a that different I dont know.

It makes the whole season meaningless. Your season ends up having no bearing on whether you make it to the playoffs. Maybe we should just switch to a two-and-out tournament format starting in August.

Isn't this the same complaining that went on when we switched from 4 playoff teams per district to two. Your line of thinking is a cop out for a Coach IMO...

Isn't this the same complaining that went on when we switched from 4 playoff teams per district to two. Your line of thinking is a cop out for a Coach IMO...

I didn't like this stupid playoff system either. Everybody but the goat plays.

I didn't like this stupid playoff system either. Everybody but the goat plays.

 

Unless the goat is on the team. :D

Bingo! :thumb:

 

And you gotta love the 100 mile avg. drive time for every game! :rolleyes:

 

 

I understand your point but any team expected to make a serious run will have the pride in place to want to go undefeated. If I ever hear a Highlands coach say the regular season games are meaningless because all teams make it into the playoffs, I'll shoot myself. Any team worth a darn would want to win every game, meaningless or not. And they really won't be meaningless even if every team gets in. District ranking will still have a large say in whether you travel or host in the early round playoff games.

I understand your point but any team expected to make a serious run will have the pride in place to want to go undefeated. If I ever hear a Highlands coach say the regular season games are meaningless because all teams make it into the playoffs, I'll shoot myself. Any team worth a darn would want to win every game, meaningless or not. And they really won't be meaningless even if every team gets in. District ranking will still have a large say in whether you travel or host in the early round playoff games.

On this, we agree 100%...:scared:

Unless the goat is on the team. :D
You've been watching too many Disney pictures! ;)

NKY 6A (Boone Co, Ryle, Conner, Campbell Co, Simon Kenton)

 

Five of the 8 NKY 4A schools remain in the top class while Dixie, Scott, and Holmes drop down. Only Dixie has a strong program so the district isn't as strong as NKY 4A currently and it will be a little easier to make the playoffs but it's still a strong district. Also, there are plenty of rivalries within the district and travel isn't a problem. On a statewide level they still have to go through the Big 3 for a state title. Overall, I don't seem the new alignment as changing much for these 5 schools.

 

NKY 5A (Dixie Heights, Scott, Holmes, Grant Co)

 

Assuming other teams from NKY don't move up to 5A, Dixie clearly is the cream of the crop in this group. Dixie will have to schedule some strong non-district games to keep sharp since Scott and Grant Co wouldn't be expected to provide much opposition and Holmes is up and down at best. Travel isn't too bad. Grant Co already comes north for district games and traveling to Grant Co isn't that far. The strongest rivalry would be between Dixie and Scott since the kids on both teams all know each other but it's hard for a rivalry to be heated when one team usually wins going away. On the plus side Scott, Holmes, and Grant Co would make the playoffs. On a statewide level, Dixie would have the luxury of not having to go through Louisville to win a state title. For Holmes, Scott, and Grant Co I think the new alignment is a net plus, for Dixie it's a slight net plus or maybe a push since the statewide outlook is mitigated by the weak district.

 

NKY 4A (CovCath, Pendleton Co)

 

CovCath is no longer in the same district as long-time rival Highlands. In fact they don't have any real rivals at all in their district. Overall, the district is weak but other than Highlands the other teams in CovCath's current district are weak. Travel is also slightly worse. On a statewide level, the path is easier because Highlands does not stand in the way but there is still plenty of other 4A competition remaining. Overall the new alignment is a net minus for CovCath.

 

NKY 3A (Highlands)

 

Highlands is put in a weak district with no natural rivalries and long travel distances. On a statewide level 3A is nowhere near as strong as 3A in the current alignment so Highlands would be a prohibitive favorite to win a state title nearly every year. Probably no other team in the state would want to move up in class more than Highlands. If they can't move up in class, the new alignment is a big net minus for Highlands even if they win a boatload of titles.

 

NKY 2A (NCC, Newport, Lloyd, Cov Holy Cross)

 

Although the new alignment separates NCC from Beechwood, this district still has plenty of strength, natural rivalries, and short travel distances. For Cov Holy Cross the new alignment is a probably a push. For Newport and Lloyd, the good news is that the gain a rival very close to home but the bad news is that the rival is very very strong. The new alignment probably helps Lloyd's and Newport's gate while it diminishes their chances for a state title. Overall I'll call it a push or maybe a slight negative for them. For NCC they lose rival Beechwood, gain two good but not as strong district rivals. On a statewide level NCC still has to deal with Danville so it's probably a push from that perspective.

 

NKY 1A (Beechwood, Bellevue, Dayton, Ludlow)

 

Without NCC in the district, the new alignment is a net minus for Beechwood. They could still play each year in a non-district game but without playoff implications in the mix the luster can help but fade. For Bellevue, Dayton, and Ludlow they still have some natural rivals to face, they're not required to play NCC, and travel distances are short. They also have a better chance to go further in the playoffs since defeating Beechwood is no small task, but defeating both Beechwood and NCC is doubly difficult. If Beechwood decides to play up, then it's definitely a net plus for the Bellevue, Dayton, and Ludlow. On a statewide basis, 1A is definitely weaker without NCC and Danville so a Beechwood vs Mayfield will probably decide the state championship in most years.

I am confused with the whole Highlands situation. I was comparing numbers, and it does not match up. In Sandman32's list he has just about everyone right....except Highlands, Taylor Co, and Mason Co. He has them in 4a with 9 schools behind them.

 

 

 

However the KHSAA has them in 3a, but those 9 "smaller schools in 4a.

 

 

 

Unless the numbers a that different I dont know.

 

 

No disrespect to 32, as I know he worked hard on it, but he used the numbers that were on the KHSAA site, which had not been updated (no fault of 32's). The updated, Boys two year average has Highlands and Mason tied as the largest 3A schools.

He also covered NKY football for the Enquirer for a while. No excuse for not knowing the landscape of the topic at hand...

Why does that opinion mean he does not know the topic. I've always believed we already have to many divisions in our state. We are a small state, with not to many schools. But yet we want the same amount of divisions as states such as Texas and Ohio?

Isn't this the same complaining that went on when we switched from 4 playoff teams per district to two. Your line of thinking is a cop out for a Coach IMO...

I'm confused do you like this format?

He also covered NKY football for the Enquirer for a while. No excuse for not knowing the landscape of the topic at hand...

 

It was the KY Post .

Why does that opinion mean he does not know the topic. I've always believed we already have to many divisions in our state. We are a small state, with not to many schools. But yet we want the same amount of divisions as states such as Texas and Ohio?

If he wants to use the coaches comments to dismiss it, where does he come up with 3 classes???

It was the KY Post .

I couldn't remember so I guessed... :p

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