December 3, 201510 yr They also had 12 bombs of some sort at their house. The police also deny that they have confirmed the suspects had go pro cameras on them. What were the bombs made out of? Can we outlaw those items? Edited December 3, 201510 yr by sportsfan41 Spelling
December 3, 201510 yr In this case, the sky already has fallen. One of these cable TV outlets ... maybe the one Nancy Grace is on ... will start running "Massacre of the Week" from 7 to 8 p.m. Monday thru Friday. You would be hilarious if you weren't so sad. SMH
December 3, 201510 yr When you start calling the shooter in Charlotte the Radical Christian Terrorist, we might be able to have a conversation. I refuse to believe a radical is worse because they're Muslim, than if they're Christian. Is there any evidence he killed in the name of Christianity? Or are you speculating?
December 3, 201510 yr That's all I'm asking for. My sarcasm is because every time something like this comes up and anyone suggests there be reform, this board explodes in the NRA rhetoric and the overblown hyperbole of "they're trying to take my guns". Even in this thread, there's a lot of that rhetoric. I'm tired of trying to have a reasonable, sensible conversation on this board about this subject. Mention even one change, and the group goes ballistic (pun intended). That comes from Hillary and Obama stating that the Australian way of gun registration is a good start. That went from registration to confiscation real fast.
December 3, 201510 yr What were the bond made out of? Can we outlaw those items? I believe they called them pipe bombs.
December 3, 201510 yr California has laws against assault style weapons and high capacity mags.. Didn't work out too well in this case.. And there's no guarantee it would have helped had their laws been different. While I believe you do have the right to own guns, and by no means even want to attempt banning all guns, I'm not comfortable with and wouldn't feel any safer if everyone was packing heat everywhere.
December 3, 201510 yr But can you blame them? Maybe not on this board, but there are plenty of delusional left-leaners that think removing all guns from the civilians is a legitimate solution. That's the type of baseless rhetoric that needs to be dropped if this country ever wants to see an effective policy implemented. And there are plenty of delusional right-leaners who think the answer to many issues is to carry a gun. There's baseless rhetoric on both sides of the issue, and I'm tired of being told that only the left-leaners have "baseless" rhetoric. The answer to gun violence (even violence as a whole) lies somewhere in the middle, and there are lots of fronts to attack. It's like abortion. You can't legislate it away.
December 3, 201510 yr When you start calling the shooter in Charlotte the Radical Christian Terrorist, we might be able to have a conversation. I refuse to believe a radical is worse because they're Muslim, than if they're Christian. Did a radical Christian terrorist fly planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on 9/11? Time to pull your head out of the sand and realize we have been at war with Radical Islam for decades now.
December 3, 201510 yr Is there any evidence he killed in the name of Christianity? Or are you speculating? Is there any evidence these shooters killed in the name of Islam?
December 3, 201510 yr Is there any evidence these shooters killed in the name of Islam? I never claimed there was. I simply said it seems some people here will deny it was radical Islamic terrorism no matter what. There was this though. Time will tell if it's true. San Bernardino' date=' California (CNN) [breaking news update at 12:13 p.m. ET'] San Bernardino shooter Syed Rizwan Farook was in touch over the phone and via social media with more than one international terrorism subject who the FBI were already investigating, law enforcement officials said. So, is there any evidence the other shooter killed in the name of Christianity? If not, why would we call him a radical Christian terrorist? Has that shooting been classified as terrorism?
December 3, 201510 yr Whenever we have one of these mass shootings, the conversation usually turns -- as it did here -- to the Ft. Thomas crowd worrying about "the government" coming after their guns and ammo. We now have about 360 million firearms in the US of A. More guns than people. Thanks Obama. (Sarcasm) Lack of gun regulation is a two-sided coin. Get used to these mass shootings. We already are. Comes with the territory. We're number one.
December 3, 201510 yr But can you blame them? Maybe not on this board, but there are plenty of delusional left-leaners that think removing all guns from the civilians is a legitimate solution. That's the type of baseless rhetoric that needs to be dropped if this country ever wants to see an effective policy implemented. Name a few. (Looking for decision-maker types, not Barbra Streisand)
December 3, 201510 yr That's all I'm asking for. My sarcasm is because every time something like this comes up and anyone suggests there be reform, this board explodes in the NRA rhetoric and the overblown hyperbole of "they're trying to take my guns". Even in this thread, there's a lot of that rhetoric. I'm tired of trying to have a reasonable, sensible conversation on this board about this subject. Mention even one change, and the group goes ballistic (pun intended). I agree that sometimes it is too easy for people to buy guns! We should be looking at these situations. But you can't try to run over gun owners like a bull in a china shop! This is an polarizing issue! Improvements will come slowly. People hold dearly to the ability to defend themselves, but the current administration is trying to shove it down their throats!
December 3, 201510 yr But the question is, how do we attempt to curb this type of crime? Awareness. Same as it's always been. We wil hear stuff from folks in the coming days and weeks that will raise flags that were ignored. Most of it will be the truth.
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