Quit asking questions. Your not allowed to think anything but what your told. Be a good citizen and go along and do as we say. It's a shame some on here are like that.

 

Why can't they answer the question about the porta potties? Is that so secret.

Having porta potties delivered in the middle of the week in an emergency like this is not hard. Especially in 3 hours. It's not like the porta potty guys are covered up.

 

Since we're all brain washed lemmings why don't you educate us on what conspiracy we are supposed to believe.

The trouble with CT's are they're too dang hard to keep up with. This one is a prime example. Exactly what theory are we chasing here? That it didn't actually happen? That it did happen but it was the government's doing? Some of it happened but not to the extent they claim? What exactly?

 

Great point. Same with the 9/11 stuff. There are many questions to be asked, but the thing is the people asking are all asking different questions.

Since we're all brain washed lemmings why don't you educate us on what conspiracy we are supposed to believe.

 

You're not supposed to believe. Conspiracy theory is about asking question after question after question to create doubt without ever having to prove wild theories. Carl Sagan said it best: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And yet, that's not what this is ever all about. The questions get asked and then hang out there, as if there was some value to the questions themselves.

You're not supposed to believe. Conspiracy theory is about asking question after question after question to create doubt without ever having to prove wild theories. Carl Sagan said it best: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And yet, that's not what this is ever all about. The questions get asked and then hang out there, as if there was some value to the questions themselves.

I guess I didn't ask my question correctly. What is the CT? I know the vague version of using it to push gun control but calling it a hoax is what is throwing me off. Does the CT crowd trying to say no shooting occurred and an entire town, the FBI, Fed government all conspired to stage this in order to push gun control? Or something else?

I guess I didn't ask my question correctly. What is the CT? I know the vague version of using it to push gun control but calling it a hoax is what is throwing me off. Does the CT crowd trying to say no shooting occurred and an entire town, the FBI, Fed government all conspired to stage this in order to push gun control? Or something else?

 

In that context Attorney General Eric Holder did say 'you have to brainwash people about gun control'.

 

I am not sure I care for a top law officer who advocates 'brainwashing'.

 

 

And just to add to the big picture fun it is an interesting coinsidence that the father term as it applies to current AR-15 style guns is from Newtown - Josh Sugarmann.

 

Josh Sugarmann - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

 

"He grew up in Newtown, Connecticut, graduating in the class of 1978. He graduated from Boston University with a degree in journalism.

...

Sugarmann has been credited with popularizing the term "assault weapon""

 

From the link above:

 

"Assault weapons—just like armor-piercing bullets, machine guns, and plastic firearms—are a new topic. The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons. In addition, few people can envision a practical use for these weapons."

 

-Josh Sugarmann, Assault Weapons and Accessories in America, 1988

 

(emphasis added)

 

So tragically ironic would be that the worse massacre perpetrated with the so called 'assault weapon' happened in the hometown of the person who has spent decades demonizing such weapons and is the creator of the modern (yet deliberately incorrect) phraseology used.

I have no trouble believing the worst of this White House and the current Congress but this conspiracy theory is truly nuts. Put yourself in the shoes of the politicians who support gun control legislation. Do most of them really want to eliminate our Second Amendment rights or do they just want to exploit the issue for political gain? If you were a gun control nut, would it be worth the risk of discovery to be involved in a conspiracy to slaughter school children to fight violence involving guns?

 

For there to have been a conspiracy, the conspirators would have been willing to risk life in prison and a scandal the magnitude of 1,000 Watergates. This is one of the craziest conspiracy theories that I have ever heard. Politicians who support strict gun control laws are evil but they are not stupid.

I have no trouble believing the worst of this White House and the current Congress but this conspiracy theory is truly nuts. Put yourself in the shoes of the politicians who support gun control legislation. Do most of them really want to eliminate our Second Amendment rights or do they just want to exploit the issue for political gain? If you were a gun control nut, would it be worth the risk of discovery to be involved in a conspiracy to slaughter school children to fight violence involving guns?

 

For there to have been a conspiracy, the conspirators would have been willing to risk life in prison and a scandal the magnitude of 1,000 Watergates. This is one of the craziest conspiracy theories that I have ever heard. Politicians who support strict gun control laws are evil but they are not stupid.

 

Thank you. :clap:

 

The problem with conspiracy theories is that, almost always, for them to work, you are forced to accept some wild premise and series of hinge events and subsequent cover-up and that nobody, I mean, nobody among the dozens of people required to pull it off will spill the beans. The fact is, it's pretty much always the simplest answer instead of the multi-layered, highly-complex domino sequence of fantastic events that are presented in the conspiracy theories. That simple answer always involves money.

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One common trait to all conspiracy theory believers is confirmation bias. That is, they believe and only pay attention to the evidence that supports their belief, and simply ignore the rest, no matter how much of it exists, nor how foolproof it is. No matter how much you drown them in facts, this bias is hard, if not impossible to overcome. Which is why the answering of all these questions is typically pointless. No matter what the police/authorities say, those believing in the conspiracy, won't accept the answer.

 

As JimS and Mitch said, the magnitude and levels of people that would need to be involved, and subsequently keep their mouths shut, is mind boggling. Just ask any celebrity, no matter how hard you try, secrets eventually come out.

Thank you. :clap:

 

The problem with conspiracy theories is that, almost always, for them to work, you are forced to accept some wild premise and series of hinge events and subsequent cover-up and that nobody, I mean, nobody among the dozens of people required to pull it off will spill the beans. The fact is, it's pretty much always the simplest answer instead of the multi-layered, highly-complex domino sequence of fantastic events that are presented in the conspiracy theories. That simple answer always involves money.

I agree, Jim, but I also believe that cover-ups, which I distinguish from conspiracies, are common. Politicians screw up more than they fix and cover-ups of screw-ups are often effective, if only in delaying the truth from emerging until few people remember why it ever mattered.

I would say it's a safe bet that most "truthers" or CT believers have either never heard of or don't buy in to Occams Razor. In it's most basic form, Occams Razor states that the simplest answer is most often the correct one. Conspiracy theorists would have you believe that the most convoluted, far out extreme answer is the correct one.

 

https://explorable.com/occams-razor

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Sad. Just sad.

Dear JA,

 

Stay out of this thread.

Sandy Hook 'Truther' Tells Victim's Mother Her Daughter Never Existed

 

I would say that someone who would do this is almost as mentally disturbed as the shooter, Adam Lanza, and should be involuntarily admitted to a psych ward for 72 hour observation.

As long as there are Tea Parties, Michele Bachman's, Sarah Palin's, and other nuts and paranoid schizophrenics these types of threads will, sadly, be for real.