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Hatfields and McCoys

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I'm guessing you weren't one of the 60 members who signed the Peace Treaty in 2003 lol.

 

 

Hahaha, nope. All I really ever knew was general info about the feud. Other than that only other thing I really knew was my name was in the Hatfield geneology book.

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Thanks Hatz. From your reading was Johnse the less then enthusiastic participant that was portrayed in the mini? In the mini he said that he purposely missed when the Hatfield sons were executed. If he did tell Mounts to shoot Alifair (how old was she at the time of her death?) that would indicate to me that he was a willing participant. In the end notes of the mini it said that Johnse was imprisoned when he returned to the area. Do you know why he returned?

 

I thought they portrayed Johnse a little more cerebral than what I read he was. He was violent and I don't know where the "I fired in the sky" excuse came from. Alifair was 19 when she was killed.

 

The three McCoy boys killed by firing squad were: 24, 19, and 18 years of age.

 

As to why Johnse returned, I couldn't find a reason. He was arrested by Humphrey Ellis in 1898 and sentenced. His release was not because he saved a murder attempt on just the warden, but had saved the Lt. Governor of KY Willaim Pryor Thorne from a knife wielding assailant. When Gov. Beckham was out (who would not pardon the Hatfields) Lt. Gov. Thorne pardoned Johnse.

 

I think they took liberties on Mounts and Johnse. Most accounts show them as willing participants in the feud.

 

BTW, the letter that is read by Devil Anse at the end is really a letter written by Cap (his son) and published in 1891. Cap would later serve time, escape, go to law school, pass the BAR exam in W.V. and be a lawyer in name more than action.

 

Otis K. Rice has an excellent, documented book on the feud but it is boring if you are looking for spice and descriptions. It is however an historians dream book for the feud. :thumb:

DVR with pause came in very handy.

 

Agreed, went back and read all of them.

I may have misunderstood what "direct descendant" meant, but basically from what I could gather I am pretty closely related to the family.
I always took direct descendant to mean father/mother to offspring to offspring to offspring and on so on. I could be wrong though. Either way your still related and that's pretty cool.

I saw on the movie data base site where this movie was filmed in Romania. Seems like they would have been more authenic and filmed it in Pike and Mingo Counties.

I saw on the movie data base site where this movie was filmed in Romania. Seems like they would have been more authenic and filmed it in Pike and Mingo Counties.

 

Not as much room as you would think to film something like that. Everything is so populated in those area's now. I mean it's not as dense as a city or anything, but still there's not too many places I could think of around here to where they could set up shop and film the way they did. To my knowledge the old homeplace's do no exist any more and there's not too many places you could really go to commemorate. I could definitely see where you could film some scenes around here, but I can totally understand the decision to film in Romania. Same landscape, probably only a lot more rural and "untouched" so to speak.

I saw on the movie data base site where this movie was filmed in Romania. Seems like they would have been more authenic and filmed it in Pike and Mingo Counties.
Was that right during the end where they said 5000 people attended Anse's funeral? Was that even possible in those days?
Was that right during the end where they said 5000 people attended Anse's funeral? Was that even possible in those days?

 

No he got that info from else where but it is pretty wild to think about that many people at one mans funeral. I've experienced something similar to that only once in my lifetime and he came from a huge family and had done business throughout NKY, Indiana, Ohio, a much larger pool to pull from than the area Hatfield was from. Not to mention the fact that even still today travel in that area isn't ideal in a lot of locations.

You are correct Professor about "bloodier" feuds.

 

However the publicity surrounding this one, coupled with the state borders and the near fight between them have led this. feud to become the most famous. When the New York press sent a photographer after the fact and wrote stories about the feud - the legend really began to morph. :thumb:

Have you read Days of Darkness: The Feuds of Eastern Kentucky? Someone told me it was a well written book that hits on the facts and dispels the the romanticism of the Eastern Kentucky feuds. I saw that it's available for Kindle on Amazon for $9.99.

Watched the first 2 so far, hoping to get my wife caught up today so we can watch the third episode today.

Found out from an aunt that my great grandmother was a Hatfield from the same bunch of Hatfields....interesting to find out.

Watched 2 of 3. It's been okay, but nothing to write home about IMO.

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