sportsfan41 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 You don't foul up 2. Ever... Thanks for clearing that up, I guess they missed the part about giving up 3's too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRCW Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Yeah, it would be a hard decision, but he has to hit those free shots too. I'm just upset, we all took at hit on the brackets but I know a lot of fans who are really hurting. What if he makes the first shot, misses the 2nd, and the leading rebounder in the NCAA gets his 18th rebound for the game, and scores? You never foul in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gametime Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Thanks for clearing that up, I guess they missed the part about giving up 3's too.... If you can't see why you NEVER foul up 2 not sure I have much else to say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigblueinsanity Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 If you can't see why you NEVER foul up 2 not sure I have much else to say... Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Parker Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Excellent post, my friend! :laugh::lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan41 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 If you can't see why you NEVER foul up 2 not sure I have much else to say... So I guess if you can't see fouling a poor freethrow shooter over giving up a 3 for a loss then I guess there isn't much to say. I understand that the general rule is only foul with a lead when up 3, well that general rule didn't work out too well for UofL. It's a game of precedent so I don't expect it to go the other way often but when it does we'll see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gametime Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 So I guess if you can't see fouling a poor freethrow shooter over giving up a 3 for a loss then I guess there isn't much to say. I understand that the general rule is only foul with a lead when up 3, well that general rule didn't work out too well for UofL. It's a game of precedent so I don't expect it to go the other way often but when it does we'll see what happens. You want to play horrible odds. Never going to happen, but keep reaching... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan41 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 You want to play horrible odds. Never going to happen, but keep reaching... Fouling a guy with a bad freetrhow percentage is bad odds? That's why they keep track of such stats.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getslow Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 There is NO WAY you foul that guy. 1) It's silly to begin with. A defensive stop (something Louisville isn't too bad at lately) and the game is theirs. An opportunity to score with the clock stopped, the potential for a rebound off a miss, there is just way too much that can go wrong. 2) That guy was 0-6 before hitting that shot. It wasn't an error of tactics, it was an error in judgment... on Siva. He shouldn't have bitten so hard in an attempt to guard a drive to the lane, thus giving up the open look. It happens. But I don't see how there's any way that you send a guy to the foul line with a free opportunity to tie the game. You make them earn it from the field. Morehead earned those points, Louisville lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auxier RiverRat Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Fouling down 2 is like kissing your sister, its never OK yet many still decide to do it. Morehead won this game on the glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan41 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 There is NO WAY you foul that guy. 1) It's silly to begin with. A defensive stop (something Louisville isn't too bad at lately) and the game is theirs. An opportunity to score with the clock stopped, the potential for a rebound off a miss, there is just way too much that can go wrong. 2) That guy was 0-6 before hitting that shot. It wasn't an error of tactics, it was an error in judgment... on Siva. He shouldn't have bitten so hard in an attempt to guard a drive to the lane, thus giving up the open look. It happens. But I don't see how there's any way that you send a guy to the foul line with a free opportunity to tie the game. You make them earn it from the field. Morehead earned those points, Louisville lost. If you really want to play the numbers game, wasn't he due to make one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PutMeInCoach Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Why the hell would any coach tell someone to foul a guy in the act of shooting? ... They don't bud.. Ala Brandon Knight, the player knows the fouls coming so he throws up the shot while being fouled, thus 3 foul shots... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan41 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 They don't bud.. Ala Brandon Knight, the player knows the fouls coming so he throws up the shot while being fouled, thus 3 foul shots... You knew where this was going the whole time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 There is NO WAY you foul that guy. 1) It's silly to begin with. A defensive stop (something Louisville isn't too bad at lately) and the game is theirs. An opportunity to score with the clock stopped, the potential for a rebound off a miss, there is just way too much that can go wrong. 2) That guy was 0-6 before hitting that shot. It wasn't an error of tactics, it was an error in judgment... on Siva. He shouldn't have bitten so hard in an attempt to guard a drive to the lane, thus giving up the open look. It happens. But I don't see how there's any way that you send a guy to the foul line with a free opportunity to tie the game. You make them earn it from the field. Morehead earned those points, Louisville lost. Good post. My take on it was, MSU knew exactly what they were doing and who they were doing it to. As soon as Faried ran into ball-screen position, Siva lost all semblence of balance. He was much more worried about getting hit with a ball-screen than actually guarding the ball that an open look was going to be achieved. The fake ball-screen was all it took, it shook him that bad. He never made a play on the ball, never came close to contesting. At that point, a top of key three becomes a pretty easy shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan41 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) Good post. My take on it was, MSU knew exactly what they were doing and who they were doing it to. As soon as Faried ran into ball-screen position, Siva lost all semblence of balance. He was much more worried about getting hit with a ball-screen than actually guarding the ball that an open look was going to be achieved. The fake ball-screen was all it took, it shook him that bad. He never made a play on the ball, never came close to contesting. At that point, a top of key three becomes a pretty easy shot. I agree, and what's funny is this exact same thing happen last week in the conference tournaments and the guy took it right in for a lay up, just different teams and a different shot selection but still the same result; funny part is it was a Big East conference game, USF against Villanova, kid on defense read the screen to the right and the guy took it to his left. If I had to guess MSU's coach had seen that play, and seen his guy make that shot, in that exact same situation. Edited March 18, 2011 by sportsfan41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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