Natural coaching progressions, you win at the smaller level and the next level wants you.. When those bigger jobs come calling as a coach you get packing.. Unless you are a homer who wants to stay at one school for a career.. Not too many coaches do that, they want to rise up the ranks just like in any job.. Dayton is not a top tier coaching job so it's not surprising that coaches who were successful there eventually left.. More than likely for bigger schools or more lucrative opportunities.. High schools nowadays are lucky to keep an up and coming coach for more than 2-3 years..

You are right mexitucky, it's still sad to see happen, especially when it was the school you attended and when things were much better from administrative, leadership, and sports perspectives. I definitely do not put the complete blame of the football problems on Deaton. I'm perfectly aware that he punched out a window on a bus, but you have to really think about all of the contributing problems to what caused that, which I also do not believe has to do with the players/students.

 

Having played against Dayton while Skirvin was there and even the next year, I have seen Dayton when they were among the best in the state in 1A. The difference b/n those teams and what has followed, from the few games that I observed, is the sense of self-belief. The Dayton teams in the late '90s had it instilled in them from a young age, that no matter what they were going to compete at 100% and more often than not that would lead to victories. It helps to have Jason Skirvin and Richardson, guys who were just on a different level athletically than other guys, but they had leaders. Guys like Stull, Cline, Hoffsteder, Big Tim, William Perry, and Walls, those guys would have led their team into a burning building if Ridder had asked them to go in, and everyone on that team would have followed. It was that type of mentality, the type that Beechwood, Highlands, and other successful programs get from every team and every class. The players weren't born w/ that mentality, they were raised w/ that mentality. When you see kids that skip practice, and curse at the coaches, or make up their own defensive assignments...that's a learned trait. People have failed these kids from the time that they were young in instilling a winning attitude. Look, Dayton may never win another state championship. That is due to numbers, not talent in the city. These guys have to play for the love of the game and the love of the game only. However, they also have to accept that football is a game that ebbs and flows. It isn't always roses, puppies, and lollipops. You will lose, you will get knocked down, and when you get back up it makes you a better person.

I think they where 9-3 in football. Basketball still playin ok. Trust Me this guy is not right for this job. If he was that good Newport wouldn't have kicked him out

 

Last year was his first year on the job. The football team went 1-9. The year before he arrived they were 2-9. You have to go back 2 seasons before Mr. Meyers arrived for a winning record.

 

He did not hire Mr. Deaton. He was not "kicked out" of Newport. Get your facts straight. Given a chance, Mr. Meyers will get the football team straight.

I think they where 9-3 in football. Basketball still playin ok. Trust Me this guy is not right for this job. If he was that good Newport wouldn't have kicked him out

 

Wally, where do you get your info from. This is an absolute joke. Wally, do us all a favor and site your source. He was never ran out of Newport. Nick Rice was happy to have retained him on his staff in 2009 and then the A.D. job came open at Dayton that summer. This was Scott's chance to get some administrative experiance, you have to remember Wally, some teachers want to advance their careers and get into educational leadership. You have the oppertunity to prove me wrong via private message because I want to save everybody the time from reading your ridiculous garbage!

I think they where 9-3 in football. Basketball still playin ok. Trust Me this guy is not right for this job. If he was that good Newport wouldn't have kicked him out

 

You're right, he's def not right for the job. He's way too good of a man to have to deal with people like you every other day. You all think you know everything! So, please explain to all of us that don't know as much as you, how do you know so much about being an AD, or a coach? Experience in both? Or did you learn it by sitting on your couch reading about it on BGP? Enlighten us please! Thanks.

As was already stated earlier in this thread, maybe it is time for people from Dayton to take a step back and look at their school and their program. Should athletes be held accountable, or should athletes be allowed to attend practice when they choose and have their parents back up their actions? Should parents be supporting the coaches and athletic director's decisions and discipline, or should they complain when they lose and complain even louder when their child is held accountable. I have seen the actions of parents in the stands at Dayton games in recent years, and a lot more needs to be fixed than coaching and the AD. There are a couple of post in this forum that display the problem with the community mindset first hand. I suppose that an AD and head coach from Ft. Thomas know nothing about what it takes to win. They must come in a distant second to parents in the Dayton community concerning knowledge of how an athletic program should be ran.

You're right, he's def not right for the job. He's way too good of a man to have to deal with people like you every other day. You all think you know everything! So, please explain to all of us that don't know as much as you, how do you know so much about being an AD, or a coach? Experience in both? Or did you learn it by sitting on your couch reading about it on BGP? Enlighten us please! Thanks.

 

Its not all about the sports side of things. He is also Dean of students. I dont know how many kids you have in Dayton But i have 3 of them in high School. I think I know alittle about what goes on their BTW 2 play football. And I like Deaton he has to put up with alot of Bull from Players, and Parents. Too much !Getting rid of meyers was my opion . Deaton IMO was tryin to be these kids coach and best friends and it backed fired on him trust me I know alot of these kids and i would have blown a gasket long before the window incident. Anybody want to know some of the things that has happen MSg me and i'll give you my side of things over the phone.

I don't get this comment. Please explain?

 

Entitlement is an attitude of "I'm owed." a lot of kids nowadays just don't want to put forth the effort, but expect the reward.

boy this is way off track. A lot of innuendo as well!

Deaton is a good man. Dayton was the wrong place for him at this time in his career. He will land as an assistant elsewhere. I am interested to see who the Devils hire next.

Who are the possible candidates for the job?

Chad Montgomery?

Chad Montgomery?

 

Is he on the staff there already?

Is he on the staff there already?

 

Yes

Bellevue passed on him last year and based on things I would say they wish they had not..................