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Proposed Trade: Billy Gillispie for Darrin Horn

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You have ZERO evidence to back that up.

Take off those opaque blue sunglasses you are looking at this situation through!

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The question is......at what point to you come to the realization that, for whatever reason or reasons, our coach is waywayway over his head in the total job description of the Head Basketball Coach at the University of Kentucky?

 

The coach that was co SEC Coach of the Year last year?

 

The coach that was a two time Big12 coach of the year?

 

The coach who has kids lined up 4 years out wanting to play for him?

 

Everybody is frustrated at the losses, but come on. Has everyone forgotten the losing streaks to Florida and Vandy that were going on before BCG got here?

 

The guy has an excellent class coming in next year and theres a strong chance every significant contributor from this year will return. If he doesn't have it together after next season, I'll start asking questions.

Take off those opaque blue sunglasses you are looking at this situation through!

 

You have ZERO evidence to back it up. You have an agenda, and it is very very clear through my glasses which are not tinted blue. Give it up.

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The coach that was co SEC Coach of the Year last year?

 

The coach that was a two time Big12 coach of the year?

 

The coach who has kids lined up 4 years out wanting to play for him?

 

Everybody is frustrated at the losses, but come on. Has everyone forgotten the losing streaks to Florida and Vandy that were going on before BCG got here?

 

The guy has an excellent class coming in next year and theres a strong chance every significant contributor from this year will return. If he doesn't have it together after next season, I'll start asking questions.

I admire your patience with Billy Clyde.

 

My issues with him aren't as much about wins and losses as much as other things involving his job performance. That includes lots of other things, too numerous to even mention, but we have all seen them in one way or another.

 

My point is, regardless if he brought in Kevin Garnett, Kobe Bryant, and LeBron James to wear the Blue and White, these other issues are going to exist.

 

He is obvious he is not a good fit at the University of Kentucky, when is it best to make a change?

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ZERO evidence?

 

Be a little objective, would you?

We could look at a trade in the manners of Billy G. for a washing machine. (Semi-Pro)....

It seemed to work out ok for the Tropics.............

 

I'm not convinced Billy can't get the job done, I just like to add some Jackie Moon into my day when ever possible.

I admire your patience with Billy Clyde.

 

My issues with him aren't as much about wins and losses as much as other things involving his job performance. That includes lots of other things, too numerous to even mention, but we have all seen them in one way or another.

 

My point is, regardless if he brought in Kevin Garnett, Kobe Bryant, and LeBron James to wear the Blue and White, these other issues are going to exist.

 

He is obvious he is not a good fit at the University of Kentucky, when is it best to make a change?

Since it is not necessarily about the W/L's.....

 

How many head coaches in college basketball have huge egos and are more often times than not arrogant jerks? Answer: All of them. They have to be. To accept such a job (of which I gurantee he is aware of the pressures and culture of), you have some of that in you.

 

Tubby was good with the media but was stubborn. Pitino was and is today a jerk. Calhoun is, Roy Williams is, etc., etc.

 

Does BCG stink in front of a camera. Yes, he does. I personally do not like it. Until his conduct on/off camera is truly detrimental to the team or University, I am willing to overlook these faults that all of these coaches virtually have for a while and give him a shot.

ZERO evidence?

 

Be a little objective, would you?

Me? Trade Devan Downey for Michael Porter and who wins that game the other day?? You're answer will tell me how OBJECTIVE you actually are...

I admire your patience with Billy Clyde.

 

My issues with him aren't as much about wins and losses as much as other things involving his job performance. That includes lots of other things, too numerous to even mention, but we have all seen them in one way or another.

 

My point is, regardless if he brought in Kevin Garnett, Kobe Bryant, and LeBron James to wear the Blue and White, these other issues are going to exist.

 

He is obvious he is not a good fit at the University of Kentucky, when is it best to make a change?

 

Such as? Being short with a reporter a couple of times?

 

I haven't heard any new drinking/womanizing rumors recently, so either he stopped or they weren't true to begin with. IIRC, Lee Todd even refuted several rumors directly.

 

There have been several stories of BCG being generous with his money.

 

Outside of wins and losses (which really aren't terrible when you look at them), I'm not sure what your issue is.

 

Seriously, if things aren't better in a year, I'll be very concerned, and if he makes it 2 years without significant improvement, I'll be calling for his head too.

I work around BCG and he's been nothing but nice to me and my crew.

I havent read all of this thread... but all I can say on any BCG thread is give the guy atleast enough time to get his players in before we completely rip him. Things he does are questionable but I can honestly get a good read on a guy until his players are playing in his system. Right now the Cats have two guys that are stars and then no one else who is consistently serviceable. That wont cut it. Its 5 on 5, not 5 on 2.

Some 18 months ago, a friend in Bowling Green and a Western season-ticket holder was telling me that Horn was taking some heat because he hadn't exactly endeared himself to some of the red-towel faithful. As the story goes, he isn't always Mr. Nice Guy, either.

 

Bottom line ... Gillispie was hired to win basketball games, even if he isn't the nicest guy around. He's done an all right job of winning games, and had a quality team last year that was decimated by injuries.

I'll take it for nothing other than just having a Kentucky guy in the postion.

Coaching record aside, their is a lot more responsibility to this job that he is paid over $2 million per year to perform.

 

He isn't close to holding up his end of the unsigned agreement.

 

He's paid 2 million to win ball games and cut down nets. I would like to think he should get more than a couple of seasons to have that chance.

I'm not the biggest Gillispie fan, but neither am I sold on Darrin Horn. I see him in the same light as Pelphrey & Travis Ford--two names that would immediately bubble up to the top in the eyes of many, if BCG left or was relieved of his duties.

 

Horn, like Pelphrey & Ford, may turn into a quality coach, but has yet to prove anything consistently over time. That takes experience and years. So I'm not sold on him yet; and yes, he did inherit Downey, whereas BCG inherited Porter. Big difference.

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