Thankfully I know very few passionate democrats nor do I want to know very many. I have had a full time job for the same company since I was barely 18 years old, almost 40 years. I have worked for everything my family and I have. No one has ever given me anything. It irks me when people that are able to work choose not to and want me to pay for their welfare.

 

I am an honorably discharged vietnam era army veteran and when I read that if I don't support Obama or Clinton, then I am either a racist, narrow minded or unpatriotic. I served my country with many blacks and women and was proud to do it. We had each others backs. I wonder how many passionate democrats actually served in the military.

I fought for their right to support any candidate they choose. But please, just because I don't share their glee over the democratic ticket, don't put a label on me. I think I've earned the right to decide for myself.

 

Oh, give me a break! I wish my father, who served two tours of Vietnam, would agree to be a member here. Talk about giving labels to people!

I am running into passionate Democrats all over central & SE KY and listening to them the country over. I have yet to run into a Republican that is passionate about their candidate or the direction of their party.

I am running into passionate Democrats all over central & SE KY and listening to them the country over.

And the polls would indicate that they are passionately against Obama.

You wouldn't have time to spend it anyways. You will be too busy standing in line to see a doctor.

:thumb::lol: Just think, Obama's experience ans military knowledge along wity Hillary's health care plan :scared:.

That's if you find anyone willing to become a doctor considering how much it costs to become one and how little Obama's socialist system will pay them.

Amen.

So it's great because we will have an African American running for President and possibly a woman running on the same ticket? OK, I agree that's nice and all, but skin color and gender doesn't make a great President or VP. Neither does charisma or or oratory skills.

All I can say to you Obama groupies is, be careful what you wish for, you may be paying for it dearly.

Great post, especially the bolded part. JMO but Obama is dangerous.

We don't know one way or the other yet; but the policies he's pushing, the tax issues and so on, yeah, it could be much worse. Especially on your wallet.

I am going to start buying/stocking up on "beano":eek:, he will be taxing farts before he is done, .

 

You have to be kidding me.

Nope.

These old Democrats just ain't what they used to be. They've gone from being the champions of the little man to a bunch of rich elitist.

 

AMEN fencepost and welcome to BGP. This is the best post on this thread and as far as I a concerned of this entire politcal season!

I have been saying basically this same thing. These younger Dems/liberals have NO idea what a true democrat is and there are certianly none in Washington,D.C. now.

Zell Miller imo is a true Democrat that knows what the party used to be along with what they stood for and still should be. Some should check into some of his writings on this to get the definition of a true Democrat, not the flaming liberals that claim to be Dems and seem to have taken the party over.

JMO

Yes, it is, whether a "great" President or VP is the result or not. The mere fact that a man of color is the presumptive nominee of one of the two major parties is an astounding thing.

 

And we're already paying dearly for the policies of the current administration, and it's looking more and more like my children and grandchildren will be, too.

Dumbest reason in the world to vote for someone, period.

 

Wait to see your children and grandchildren will be paying if we get this guy in, not to mention the horror of his health care system.

Dumbest reason in the world to vote for someone, period.

 

Wait to see your children and grandchildren will be paying if we get this guy in, not to mention the horror of his health care system.

 

The last democratic president balanced the budget and now that has been reversed, so I am not too thrilled with where republican leadership has led us in that category.

Excellent post, MT....good to have you back! :thumb:

 

Glad to be back and thanks! I rarely venture over into the politics and religon forums, but something just drew me into this one!

Thankfully I know very few passionate democrats nor do I want to know very many. I have had a full time job for the same company since I was barely 18 years old, almost 40 years. I have worked for everything my family and I have. No one has ever given me anything. It irks me when people that are able to work choose not to and want me to pay for their welfare.

 

I am an honorably discharged vietnam era army veteran and when I read that if I don't support Obama or Clinton, then I am either a racist, narrow minded or unpatriotic. I served my country with many blacks and women and was proud to do it. We had each others backs. I wonder how many passionate democrats actually served in the military.

 

I fought for their right to support any candidate they choose. But please, just because I don't share their glee over the democratic ticket, don't put a label on me. I think I've earned the right to decide for myself.

 

I am a passionate Democrat and a DAV and I loved your post. I will be voting for Obama in November.

While I don't care for any of the candidates, I do recognize nWo's excitement as geniune and understandable. While not an Obama fan (to say the least), the fact that one of our 2 major parties has nominated an African American candidate speaks volumes as to how far we have come in the past 40+ years. We are far from over the mountain, but we can at least see the peak and that is an enormous achievement. There is no way I can truly feel the joy that nWo feels, but do feel a sense of pride that we have at least moved forward enough to see this monumental achievement in our society.

 

However, on the other side, I am a conservative, but don't see a candidate who truly speaks to me and that I believe in right now. Unless something drastic changes, I will be voting for McCain. However, it is simply because I believe he has more experience than Obama and actually has concrete ideas on what we need to do, especially on our foreign policies. I believe that McCain has the experience and a better understanding of what we are facing and not just some ideals that could bankrupt our nation.

 

I remember hearing Nancy P standing up and telling us that with the democrats in control of congress, we would see gas prices stop going up and that they had solutions. Two years later, I am seeing gas prices at an all time high, I am seeing bills introduced to tax power companies into raising rates (which will be at least 50%-60% higher in the next 5 years), refusing to allow new more efficient coal fired plants to be built, but instead mandating taxes on the current less efficient ones, and our economy in a downturned state. Democrats blame Bush, Republicans blame congress, but really, ... they are both to blame. Democrats for refusing to really investigate and understand the options and Bush for not forcing the issues that need to be forced.

 

I am disgusted by our politicians, and don't relish voting for any of them right now. However, I have seen the impact that Pelosi and her buddies have had on our country, and that scares me into voting for at least someone who has proven that he can work with both sides of the aisle and maybe, ... just maybe, ... get something positive done in Washington for a change. I really hate that I am voting for maybe instead of what I believe is a sure fire bet, but that, IMHO, is what we are left with.

It is really good to have you back my friend. I plan on making a trip to parts unkown as soon as I can. :thumb:

Colin Powell, Condi Rice, J. C. Watts, Harold Ford, Jr., and Charles Rangel for starters. There are no Democratic African-Americans for whom I would consider voting - they are all way too liberal for my tastes - but there are much more qualified and experienced candidates.

 

I forgot about Rangel, I don't think I could vote for J.C. Watts Jr.

Glad to be back and thanks! I rarely venture over into the politics and religon forums, but something just drew me into this one!

 

You should venture over more often! :thumb:

I am a passionate Democrat and a DAV and I loved your post. I will be voting for Obama in November.

 

Thank you for your service and your sacrifice.

John McCain likes to do what some people refer to as "flip flop" when it comes to abortion. He says he is against it, but if it were his own daughter, he feels like it would be her decision to make. So he thinks his daughter should be able to choose, but the decision should already be made for everyone else.

 

Please explain the alleged flip flop. He's against it. He feels like it would be his daughter's decision. How is that a flip flop? Where did he say the decision should already be made for everyone else? How does one lead to the other? It sounds like he feels exactly like I do. I am against it. But, if it were my daughter (over 18) it certainly would be her decision.

 

Why engage in another 4 years as the past 7.It's time for a change.As a Republican, I will be voting for Obama. It's about country and directions not party.

 

How can you say one leads to the other. Certainly you don't equate Jimmy Carter with Bill Clinton, do you? Richard Nixon and Bush 1 with Ronald Reagan? I don't like McCain but he certainly has had enough fights with the republican's over the years that I believe he would lead differently than Bush has.

I'd vote for you before I'd vote for Condi Rice. :laugh: I seriously doubt that she is qualified to be the President of the U.S.

 

But, don't you think Obama is? If so, why one and not the other?