Neither party then looks like their namesake today.

For example: George Wallace was a Democrat at that time (I can't recall but Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond might have been as well.)

 

The Republican party boasted Nelson Rockefeller, Barry Goldwater, and Lodge I think.

 

It was during the 70's that Democratic party shifted hard left and many of the former Dixiecrats left the party to eventually become Republicans.

 

I'll give you the bolded part, certainly about the Democrats anyway. JFK and MLK Jr. wouldn't recognize today's Democratic leaders and the policies they support.

I'll give you the bolded part, certainly about the Democrats anyway. JFK and MLK Jr. wouldn't recognize today's Democratic leaders and the policies they support.

 

I would agree in many ways on that one. I think it's true in both cases though. Barry Goldwater did not care for the Religious Right or their intrusion (his words) on the private life of the American. (Again his summation, no necessarily mine) So to say both look different is very accurate.

It is a great time because it was just about 43 years ago that the civil rights bill was signed by Lyndon Johnson. I never thought I would see either a woman or a African-American nominated by a major political party in my life time.

 

I remember Shirley Chisom's run for the presidency when I was a freshman in high school. I thought the best I would see would be Jesse Jackson's bid. On the Republican side I would have like to see what J. C. Watts could have done but I don't think the country was ready yet.

 

I even thought back to the time I was denied the opportunity to go to a certain school I wanted to go to because of the color of my skin. I remembered the times I was stopped by the police because I wasn't in the so called right place.

 

As I watched the returns last night, I thought back to what my mom and dad always told me. That no matter what a person's background is, in this country, anything is possible if you are willing to work for it.

 

I just wished mom and dad and my two brothers had lived long enough to see this day come.

 

So please forgive me if I take the time to celebrate this momentous occasion.

 

:thumb: It's really too bad that some people cannot just step back for a second and let the occassion set in, regardless of whether they are a R or a D, or whether they like Obama or not.

You nailed it...Every American - Democrats and Geriatrics alike should be appreciative of what just took place. It is historic, momentous,and awe-inspiring. If you don't chills thinking of what has just taken place, then you don't love this country as much as you try to pretend. I will be the first to say that there are still many racist elements that exist in this country, but the fact that an African-American and a female were vying for the nomination of a major party is something we all should be proud of. Some of you obviously are not. We have come a long way, but there is still a long way to go in overcoming the racial and gender bias in this country. Hopefully, Senator Obama can help us move forward to heal such bias and bigotry. It won't be easy, especially in this part of the country.

Contrary to popular belief, racial and gender bias are not the biggest problems facing this country.:sssh:

Contrary to popular belief, racial and gender bias are not the biggest problems facing this country.:sssh:

 

But they are everpresent nemeses that continue to haunt and hinder.

It gives me nightmares to think of Obama as the president of this country.

 

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He's referring to what you will have left in your paycheck after all your money is spent on welfare and foreign aide.

 

:laugh: :thumb:Thank you, and don't forget after all the new and elevated taxes that will leave us with nothing.

:laugh: :thumb:Thank you, and don't forget after all the new and elevated taxes that will leave us with nothing.

You wouldn't have time to spend it anyways. You will be too busy standing in line to see a doctor.

You wouldn't have time to spend it anyways. You will be too busy standing in line to see a doctor.

 

That's if you find anyone willing to become a doctor considering how much it costs to become one and how little Obama's socialist system will pay them.

So it's great because we will have an African American running for President and possibly a woman running on the same ticket? OK, I agree that's nice and all, but skin color and gender doesn't make a great President or VP. Neither does charisma or or oratory skills.

All I can say to you Obama groupies is, be careful what you wish for, you may be paying for it dearly.

'75, you have good political insight , so I will ask you--what do you think the McCain camp can do, if anything , to inject some life into their campaign and claim some degree of momentum?

 

Math, I truly don't know if he can do anything. Even if he were a dynamic speaker I think the political climate is too much for him. Conservatives are disgusted with a wasted opportunity by Bush and congress. Independants are "renegades" by nature for want of a better word and despite having that past mantle, McCain loses the freshness battle to Obama. Democrats are energized like I haven't seen them in many years. Where is he going to draw the momentum from?

 

I truly think the only thing that would give him a chance is some type of terror attack which would make people have cause for concern about Obama's inexperience. I don't think that has any chance of happening (thank God) so I see Obama as winning the election.

Dems have momentum and energy. McCain's camp reminds me of Bob Dole's lethargic campaign in 96. Enthusiasm just isn't there.

 

 

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So it's great because we will have an African American running for President and possibly a woman running on the same ticket? OK, I agree that's nice and all, but skin color and gender doesn't make a great President or VP. Neither does charisma or or oratory skills.

All I can say to you Obama groupies is, be careful what you wish for, you may be paying for it dearly.

 

Worse than Bush/Cheany, I highly doubt that!

Thankfully I know very few passionate democrats nor do I want to know very many. I have had a full time job for the same company since I was barely 18 years old, almost 40 years. I have worked for everything my family and I have. No one has ever given me anything. It irks me when people that are able to work choose not to and want me to pay for their welfare.

 

I am an honorably discharged vietnam era army veteran and when I read that if I don't support Obama or Clinton, then I am either a racist, narrow minded or unpatriotic. I served my country with many blacks and women and was proud to do it. We had each others backs. I wonder how many passionate democrats actually served in the military.

 

I fought for their right to support any candidate they choose. But please, just because I don't share their glee over the democratic ticket, don't put a label on me. I think I've earned the right to decide for myself.

Worse than Bush/Cheany, I highly doubt that!

We don't know one way or the other yet; but the policies he's pushing, the tax issues and so on, yeah, it could be much worse. Especially on your wallet.