June 5, 200818 yr True, but almost EVERY political LEADER that your party supports IS. I don't know how many times it has to be stated on BGP that Rockmom isn't a "liberal" or a "democrat".
June 5, 200818 yr Interesting list here: Pro-choice Republicans you might know: Colin Powell, Rudy Giuliani, Susan Molinari, Condoleeza Rice, Fred Thompson Believe me, I am not thrilled with them, either.
June 5, 200818 yr I don't know how many times it has to be stated on BGP that Rockmom isn't a "liberal" or a "democrat". True. But she is not "Speaker of the House", or any type of elected political leader in the house or senate.
June 5, 200818 yr :thumb: I have yet to meet anyone who felt any kind of happiness that abortion is legal, or that abortion would be eliminated if it was illegal. Only people who feel that until we can stop the reasons a woman seeks abortion, that it's regulated and is medically safe.
June 5, 200818 yr I'd vote for you before I'd vote for Condi Rice. :laugh: I seriously doubt that she is qualified to be the President of the U.S.I believe that you are confusing qualifications with positions on issues. Dr. Rice is very well qualified to be President, regardless of whether you agree with her positions on issues or not. Furthermore, until and if she runs for the office, we have no way of knowing with which positions of George W. Bush she agrees. The Sec. of State's job is to give advice to the president and to carry out the president's foreign policy. I really do not understand why liberals love to demonize conservative African-Americans like Condi Rice and Clarence Thomas. Is it because they understand what a disaster it would be for their party to have a conservative black American elected president? If you do not believe that Condi Rice is qualified to be president, I truly do not understand how you could consider voting for a man whose only qualification is that he is the junior senator from Illinois with a half-term under his belt. How does that qualify Obama?
June 5, 200818 yr I have yet to meet anyone who felt any kind of happiness that abortion is legal, or that abortion would be eliminated if it was illegal. Only people who feel that until we can stop the reasons a woman seeks abortion, that it's regulated and is medically safe. I guess I belong to that group.
June 5, 200818 yr I believe that you are confusing qualifications with positions on issues. Dr. Rice is very well qualified to be President, regardless of whether you agree with her positions on issues or not. Furthermore, until and if she runs for the office, we have no way of knowing with which positions of George W. Bush she agrees. The Sec. of State's job is to give advice to the president and to carry out the president's foreign policy. I really do not understand why liberals love to demonize conservative African-Americans like Condi Rice and Clarence Thomas. Is it because they understand what a disaster it would be for their party to have a conservative black American elected president? If you do not believe that Condi Rice is qualified to be president, I truly do not understand how you could consider voting for a man whose only qualification is that he is the junior senator from Illinois with a half-term under his belt. How does that qualify Obama? I'm not saying she isn't qualified, but I don't see what makes her qualified, more than any others who may choose to run. I question, again, how much of her influence on Bush is possibly a front to help him save face, versus an actual influence. I don't have a problem with a conservative being President, as long as their views largely fall in line with mine. I don't vote gender, race, political party, or liberal vs. conservative. I just honestly want a candidate that reflects what the lower-middle class/upper-poverty level demographic feels.
June 5, 200818 yr I have yet to meet anyone who felt any kind of happiness that abortion is legal, or that abortion would be eliminated if it was illegal. Only people who feel that until we can stop the reasons a woman seeks abortion, that it's regulated and is medically safe.At 3,000-3,500 abortions per day, how many lives being saved would make it worthwhile getting Roe overturned and allowing states to make their own laws restricting abortion? With Democrats in power, no lives will be saved, and with two or three additional liberal justices on the Supreme Court, more lives could be placed at risk. Saving 12 lives a day would total more than the 4,000 American lives lost in Iraq. Even if abortion is not eliminated, there are many lives to be saved with reasonable restrictions that result in more responsible behavior on the part of women and men.
June 5, 200818 yr I'm not saying she isn't qualified, but I don't see what makes her qualified, more than any others who may choose to run. I question, again, how much of her influence on Bush is possibly a front to help him save face, versus an actual influence. I don't have a problem with a conservative being President, as long as their views largely fall in line with mine. I don't vote gender, race, political party, or liberal vs. conservative. I just honestly want a candidate that reflects what the lower-middle class/upper-poverty level demographic feels. If you honestly believe that a half term as a US Senator makes Obama as qualified to serve as president as Condi Rice, with her many years experience in foreign policy, then I would be wasting my time posting her resume here. I understand how people can be opposed to the Bush foreign policy, but I cannot understand how they can argue that Sec. of State Rice is not extremely well qualified. After seeing what a horrendous campaigner Bill Richardson has been, I changed my mind about Richardson being a plausible presidential candidate. However, I will not argue that he is not extremely well qualified based on his experience. I just do not understand why Democrats (and some independents) deny obvious qualifications just because they disagree with a potential candidate's political philosophy.
June 5, 200818 yr These old Democrats just ain't what they used to be. They've gone from being the champions of the little man to a bunch of rich elitist.
June 5, 200818 yr "Change" is the word of hype for Obama. He goes on and on about change, but never explains much beyond that. Maybe McCain can corner him on his "change" philosophy and enlighten the rest of us.
June 5, 200818 yr These old Democrats just ain't what they used to be. They've gone from being the champions of the little man to a bunch of rich elitist. Welcome to BGP, fencepost!! And I'm glad you're not ON the fencepost anymore!! :thumb:
June 5, 200818 yr If you honestly believe that a half term as a US Senator makes Obama as qualified to serve as president as Condi Rice, with her many years experience in foreign policy, then I would be wasting my time posting her resume here. I understand how people can be opposed to the Bush foreign policy, but I cannot understand how they can argue that Sec. of State Rice is not extremely well qualified. Tell me how she's more qualified than anyone else. That's not a sarcastic question. It's a true question for me. I'm not saying she isn't qualified, only that I don't see it. So, don't tell me you don't see how I can't see it. Tell me why I should see it. After seeing what a horrendous campaigner Bill Richardson has been, I changed my mind about Richardson being a plausible presidential candidate. However, I will not argue that he is not extremely well qualified based on his experience. I just do not understand why Democrats (and some independents) deny obvious qualifications just because they disagree with a potential candidate's political philosophy. I really don't have an opinion one way or another about him at this time.
June 5, 200818 yr Tell me how she's more qualified than anyone else. That's not a sarcastic question. It's a true question for me. I'm not saying she isn't qualified, only that I don't see it. She earned her bachelor's degree in political science, cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974 Earned her master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975 Completed her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences Has been awarded honorary doctorates from: Morehouse College in 1991 The University of Alabama in 1994 The University of Notre Dame in 1995 The National Defense University in 2002 The Mississippi College School of Law in 2003 The University of Louisville Michigan State University in 2004 and Boston College in 2006. She was a member of the boards of directors for: Chevron Corporation Charles Schwab The William and Flora Hewlett Foundation The University of Notre Dame The International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors. She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula. Her past board service has also encompassed such organizations as: Transamerica Corporation Hewlett Packard The Carnegie Corporation Carnegie Endowment for International Peace The Rand Corporation The National Council for Soviet and East European Studies The Mid-Peninsula Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San Francisco. From 1989 through March 1991 (the period of German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union) she served in the Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. While an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender-Integrated Training in the Military. At Stanford, she was a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow of the Hoover Institution. Her books include: Germany Unified and Europe Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East European foreign and defense policy. Stanford faculty memeber since 1981, and has won two of the highest teaching honors -- the 1984 Walter J. Gores Award for Excellence in Teaching and the 1993 School of Humanities and Sciences Dean's Award for Distinguished Teaching. In June 1999, she completed a 6-year tenure as Stanford University 's Provost, during which she was the institution's chief budget and academic officer. As Provost she was responsible for a $1.5 billion annual budget and the academic program involving 1,400 faculty members and 14,000 students. She became Secretary of State in January, 2005. Prior to this, she had been the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, commonly referred to as the National Security Advisor, since January 2001. Any questions.
June 5, 200818 yr Might be a great night to be a Democrat, but November doesn't seem like it will be a great month
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