Eta Rho Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 With AAU a lot of times you have to be in the right situation to shine. And its a more guard-oriented game anyways. If the kid is unselfish I could see why he could be very good, but not dominate. Hit the nail on the head LMB. In middle school he dominated because at 6'6 and being a guard he was bigger than everyone who tried to guard him and as you said was in a good situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coach4life Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Arnold has dominated at what level? He's not even close to being the best soph to be in N Ky. He has never been a contributor on any of the top AAU teams in this age group and he wasn't even a force at the JV level for Holmes this past season. I saw Holmes 7-8 times this year on the varsity level and 2-3 times on the JV level. While dressing for Holmes as a frosh was a pretty significant achievement with their talent level his minutes were pretty much limited to garbage minutes. While I will agree he has potential he has yet to put it to use and saying that he has dominated at his age level would be an overstatement. If you want to see where most of the best players from the class of 2011 ended up check out both Shining Stars (Pittman & McCord) rosters. Even though Arnold is not playing for the Shining Stars teams, he is still IMO one of the top prospects in NKY. He has been playing with a 17U team with a couple of the seniors-to-be from Holmes, which IMO will help him develop. He is playing against bigger and stronger players than he normally would if he played in his age group. He also works pretty hard and has some pretty good seniors guiding him along. He may surprise some people next season for Holmes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eta Rho Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Even though Arnold is not playing for the Shining Stars teams, he is still IMO one of the top prospects in NKY. He has been playing with a 17U team with a couple of the seniors-to-be from Holmes, which IMO will help him develop. He is playing against bigger and stronger players than he normally would if he played in his age group. He also works pretty hard and has some pretty good seniors guiding him along. He may surprise some people next season for Holmes. I agree. The only time Arnold has played at his age level was in middle school which was the first time I saw him and he looked dominant the few times I seen him. Also at 6'6 he is still growing in to his body. Playing against older competition will help him in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishEyes Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 (edited) K is just a huge match up problem for any teams in the Northern Kentucky area. At his size he can post up on a guard and drag a big man out on the perimeter. He's just so raw it's hard to tell what he will be like in the future. He's a pretty predictable player considering he uses his strong hand (left) 90 percent of the time and using the same moves on offense constantly. I think once he is a junior/senior Henley will have alot more one on one time to work with him. He has a great scoring mentality and if he gets stronger could have a great career. In the past weekend at a 17u aau tournament he averaged about 13-15 points a game, I'd say that's performing above his age level. Edited May 31, 2008 by Ram Rule 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eta Rho Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 K is just a huge match up problem for any teams in the Northern Kentucky area. At his size he can post up on a guard and drag a big man out on the perimeter. He's just so raw it's hard to tell what he will be like in the future. He's a pretty predictable player considering he uses his strong hand (left) 90 percent of the time and using the same moves on offense constantly. I think once he is a junior/senior Henley will have alot more one on one time to work with him. He has a great scoring mentality and if he gets stronger could have a great career. In the past weekend at a 17u aau tournament he averaged about 13-15 points a game, I'd say that's performing above his age level. Agree. It's tough to tell how good he'll really be since he's so raw right now, but he definetly presents match up problems for almost anyone in NKY. It's not very often a 6'6 freshman comes along with the guard skills Arnold already possesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishEyes Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 I think Keyvon could be a great Greg Rice type player, elbow to elbow with a great kumpshot. I'm excited to see what Henley does with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eta Rho Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 I think Keyvon could be a great Greg Rice type player, elbow to elbow with a great kumpshot. I'm excited to see what Henley does with him. Keyvon is already bigger than Rice was height wise so that's a very good possibility. I also think Keyvon handles the ball better and has a better jump shot than Rice. I think Keyvon just needs to work on his inside game. He is already pretty good outside but what made Rice so dominant was his soft touch around the rim. If Keyvon develops that, he'll be very tough to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishEyes Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Very, very true in everything you said. I was just referring to their ability to create matchup problems for opponents. I think the main differential between the two was Rice's go-get-it attitude. In a close game Rice kept the same attitude. Keyvon is a tough competitor but he does start not to care once he's losing by so much. IMO I think K will be an overall better player than Rice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishEyes Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 (edited) Keyvon's dad is also not huge but he's pretty tall. His dad is "Lump" as everyone calls him is around 6'4. SO maybe K can grow a little more but I personnaly don't see it. Edited May 31, 2008 by Ram Rule 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eta Rho Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Very, very true in everything you said. I was just referring to their ability to create matchup problems for opponents. I think the main differential between the two was Rice's go-get-it attitude. In a close game Rice kept the same attitude. Keyvon is a tough competitor but he does start not to care once he's losing by so much. IMO I think K will be an overall better player than Rice. Keyvon's dad is also not huge but he's pretty tall. His dad is "Lump" as everyone calls him is around 6'4. SO maybe K can grow a little more but I personnaly don't see it. Anytime you have a kid who's 6'6 and can play inside and out it's going to create match up problems. I agree on the Rice assessment. If K can develop the same mentality he will indeed be better than Rice. I think it will really help him develop over the next two years being able to play with D1 caliber players like Rico and Pittman. I believe Keyvon's family as a whole is pretty tall so I wouldn't be surprised to see him grow an inch or two more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gswilder Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) Definitely some good talent in 2010 class with Euton, Jackson, etc. Edited June 10, 2008 by gswilder NM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSBallFan78 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Regarding KHSAA eligibility for Scott County transfers..... I just heard late last week, that the KHSAA DOES in fact have some kind of inquiry going on regarding Jackson and Euton. Supposedly there was a KHSAA meeting last Friday 6/6 on the matter. My source is pretty good, although they are not personally in on the meetings/discussions. Pretty sure in the end, both with be ruled eligiibile. Also what is the latest on Tanner Shotwell and Scott County? Is he eligible to play next year? Hears there was some issue with him playing for LCA last season. Thanks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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