Is anyone breaking the rules? Is there an investigation? Have charges been brought? Is the KHSAA doing anything?

 

These questions continue to go unanswered by the powers that be. As long as they are not addressed publicly by the KHSAA and are not investigated by them, the rumors, innuendos, false statements, and hearsay will continue and grow more and more. The KHSAA needs to do something, make a statement, begin an investigation, anything other than sitting on its hands. It is obvious that the leadership of the KHSAA over the past few years has been poor at best.

 

Has the KHSAA been asked to do anything? Or is the staff expected to subscribe to and read every newspaper in the state? If there are legitimate violations that someone feel have been committed, put it in writing and send it to them in Lexington. Wasting your tmie bashing each other and on he-said she-said doesn't seem to do much good.

The KHSAA's inaction allows some of the best athletes to be in their best situations. So, Yes it is a dereliction of duty, but the consequences aren't necessarily bad. I would personally prefer the rule changed as opposed to KHSAA acting upon the rule on the books.

 

Again, has anyone submitted written factual information the KHSAA offices in Lexington that alleges specific violations? No one on here seems to have answered that question. If there is deriliction, then document it. That's fair. If there have been no reports, then retract what is borderline slander. Lay it on the table and hold them accountable. Or hold your cards and shut up.

Again, has anyone submitted written factual information the KHSAA offices in Lexington that alleges specific violations? No one on here seems to have answered that question. If there is deriliction, then document it. That's fair. If there have been no reports, then retract what is borderline slander. Lay it on the table and hold them accountable. Or hold your cards and shut up.

 

Amen brother kissinger!

 

It is the same, old, tired public school story; all fluff, no facts, and certainly no meaningful action on the public schools part.

 

I think another part of the problem is the make up of public school systems, they are their own little "Kingdoms" and they are used to calling all the shots. Since the perceived recruitment of athletes is something they don't have control over they are lost balls in tall weeds and have resorted crying and complaining to anyone that will listen instead of taking the time and effort to make a case.

 

Again, with leadership like many public schools have, it is easy to see why families choose to go to elsewhere.

Has the KHSAA been asked to do anything? Or is the staff expected to subscribe to and read every newspaper in the state? If there are legitimate violations that someone feel have been committed, put it in writing and send it to them in Lexington. Wasting your tmie bashing each other and on he-said she-said doesn't seem to do much good.

 

I am not arguing your point. I think we agree on this. But do you not think that a report in the paper with quotes from a student, parent, and athletic director would not warrant at least a phone call from someone at the KHSAA and some sort of finding published by them. In this case I believe the article said a written communication was going to the KHSAA.

Has the KHSAA been asked to do anything? Or is the staff expected to subscribe to and read every newspaper in the state? If there are legitimate violations that someone feel have been committed, put it in writing and send it to them in Lexington. Wasting your tmie bashing each other and on he-said she-said doesn't seem to do much good.

Come on they read the CJ and Herald Leader. Just like everyone else in the state.

I have come to a decision...let them create lines however they want.

T and X will continue to be very strong teams in all sports.

I have come to a decision...let them create lines however they want.

T and X will continue to be very strong teams in all sports.

 

I agree. I know when I'm not liked or wanted, and I usually don't stick around those parties very long.

Amen brother kissinger!

 

It is the same, old, tired public school story; all fluff, no facts, and certainly no meaningful action on the public schools part.

 

I think another part of the problem is the make up of public school systems, they are their own little "Kingdoms" and they are used to calling all the shots. Since the perceived recruitment of athletes is something they don't have control over they are lost balls in tall weeds and have resorted crying and complaining to anyone that will listen instead of taking the time and effort to make a case.

 

Again, with leadership like many public schools have, it is easy to see why families choose to go to elsewhere.

 

Couldn't have said it better myself. :thumb:

Come on SS, that's kind of silly. Its the KHSAA because only Ky high schools participate in the KHSAA sanctioned events. Is the kid going to a Ky high school is all that should matter. Are you afraid that the Ohio kids are better athletes than the Ky kids? I'm sure not. Furthermore, why such a sweeping rule when probably less than a half of one percent of all athletes are from out of state? Just another use of a howitzer to shoot a mouse; just another feel good rule that will have a de minimus affect on things. Frankly I look at it with state pride when an out of state student chooses to attend a Ky school as it means our academic and/or athletic programs are stronger than those of the border states (which probably explains why we get so few Ohio kids to attend Ky schools).

 

A howitzer to address 1/2 of one percent?! and to be silly to boot. Who is playing the drama here? Only KY high schools participate in KHSAA sanctioned events so it is OK in your mind that such should have the ability to have other than KY students involved? Interesting thoughts. And how is a simple residency rule a howitzer? Perhaps because it could lay the ground work of other dark boundary concerns?! Wonder how you feel about the immigration issues facing our country.

81, my comment had booster in it and thats were Albert Means came into play.

 

A player took $200 dollars from a Family agent and told a team-mate who told him to give it back and he did. The player did wrong but no problems of probation. The games he played were forfeited.

 

Hope this helps you,now who do you pull for so I can research them for everyone.

Amen brother kissinger!

 

It is the same, old, tired public school story; all fluff, no facts, and certainly no meaningful action on the public schools part.

 

I think another part of the problem is the make up of public school systems, they are their own little "Kingdoms" and they are used to calling all the shots. Since the perceived recruitment of athletes is something they don't have control over they are lost balls in tall weeds and have resorted crying and complaining to anyone that will listen instead of taking the time and effort to make a case.

 

Again, with leadership like many public schools have, it is easy to see why families choose to go to elsewhere.

 

 

Recruiting is an issue at all levels. It is just not the Public vs. private issue. Yes , I am sure some of the privates may recruit public kids, some of the publics may recruit other publics, and how dare I say that some publics may even recruit private kids. It is happening. Enough of the public vs. private. Let's either come up with a way to stop all of the recruiting.

 

My child is an athlete at a public school. We have lost some students to other publics. I pretty much know that a couple of them were recruited. I do not recall losing any athletes to a private school though. I know one of our coaches have made the comment, if they do not want to be here, then we don't want them here. We, as public schools need to clean up our own backyard before we get into someone elses. If it is clean, then get the facts and proceed with the KHSAA.

 

One last point. Guru, please don't streotype all of the publics as their own little "Kingdoms". There are quite a few out there that don't care one way or the other about the public vs. private issue. Our school is one of them. Don't let the actions of Sears, Owen Co. or anyone else who is not seeing the root of the problem (recruiting) sway your perception of the public schools. Some of them are actually pretty good. I know ours is.

I am not arguing your point. I think we agree on this. But do you not think that a report in the paper with quotes from a student, parent, and athletic director would not warrant at least a phone call from someone at the KHSAA and some sort of finding published by them. In this case I believe the article said a written communication was going to the KHSAA.

 

Not at all and I wouldn't want it to. They are a state entity. And as such, have to go by state regulations. Their bylaw 16 clearly states that someone has to submit a report of a violation of request for investigation in writing before it can be acted on. It all goes back to ability to confront an accuser, open records laws, and many other intertwined regulations that require people to have the body parts to stand up, say someone is doing something, and sign their name.

Come on they read the CJ and Herald Leader. Just like everyone else in the state.

 

I hope they aren't spending their time reading the paper. Most of the schools in Jefferson County have feared reporting things over the years due to the relative lack of cleanliness in their own houses. This isn't a private school issue. This is a high school issue. Somebody has to stand up and be willing to report each other or we will all just sit here and continue to spread idle gossip that means nothing.

One last point. Guru, please don't streotype all of the publics as their own little "Kingdoms". There are quite a few out there that don't care one way or the other about the public vs. private issue. Our school is one of them. Don't let the actions of Sears, Owen Co. or anyone else who is not seeing the root of the problem (recruiting) sway your perception of the public schools. Some of them are actually pretty good. I know ours is.

 

1734, I am generally speaking about the ones doing the complaining. All of them are "Kingdoms" so to to speak but I do realize that many of the Kingdoms have benevolent leaders and throwing stones is not an issue for those public schools.

A howitzer to address 1/2 of one percent?! and to be silly to boot. Who is playing the drama here? Only KY high schools participate in KHSAA sanctioned events so it is OK in your mind that such should have the ability to have other than KY students involved? Interesting thoughts. And how is a simple residency rule a howitzer? Perhaps because it could lay the ground work of other dark boundary concerns?! Wonder how you feel about the immigration issues facing our country.

 

If you are wondering, go the the P and R forum and read away: you'll find out how I feel about immigration.

 

Think about the howitzer analogy. It will come to you.

 

Bottom line: what do you have to fear from kids from out of the state playing against Kentuckians?