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KHSAA to consider multipliers and success factors for football realignment - What might it look like?

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Just now, Bac2369 said:

Have the numbers at Beechwood increased that much over the past several years?

These are Beechwood's male enrollment numbers for the last four years:

2025-26: 283
2024-25: 279
2023-24: 273
2022-23: 265

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  • Colonels_Wear_Blue
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    So the 1.35 multiplier applied to private schools is factored in to account for a perceived advantage held by private schools to be able to accept students without being hindered by a geographical dis

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3 minutes ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

These are Beechwood's male enrollment numbers for the last four years:

2025-26: 283
2024-25: 279
2023-24: 273
2022-23: 265

Whats the lowest enrollment numbers for Class 3A?

15 minutes ago, Bac2369 said:

Whats the lowest enrollment numbers for Class 3A?

The smallest projected 3A school (Washington County) has a current 2-year average of 293 boys and the largest 2A school (Magoffin County) has a current 2-year average of 292 boys. Beechwood's current 2-year average is 281 boys.

The classification numbers are currently projected, though. We won't know that for sure until the KHSAA gives out an official draft of the alignment.

17 minutes ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

The smallest projected 3A school (Washington County) has a current 2-year average of 293 boys and the largest 2A school (Magoffin County) has a current 2-year average of 292 boys. Beechwood's current 2-year average is 281 boys.

The classification numbers are currently projected, though. We won't know that for sure until the KHSAA gives out an official draft of the alignment.

They are definitely close. 

This looks very similar to what the TSSAA did here is TN about 15 years ago. The private schools could accept the multiplier (1.4 if I remember correctly) to stay in the D1 Public Division or move to D2 Private Division.  It was an intermediate step before the complete D1 (public)/D2 (private) split a few years later. May be an "apples and oranges" comparison because of the small number of Private schools in KY was compared to the 50 in TN.

1 hour ago, theguru said:

I think the NKY private schools should be highly motivated to take legal action here.

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So the 1.35 multiplier applied to private schools is factored in to account for a perceived advantage held by private schools to be able to accept students without being hindered by a geographical district line....yet there isn't any factor applied to the public schools that accept students from outside of their geographical school district.

Makes sense to me.

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4 minutes ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

So the 1.35 multiplier applied to private schools is factored in to account for a perceived advantage held by private schools to be able to accept students without being hindered by a geographical district line....yet there isn't any factor applied to the public schools that accept students from outside of their geographical school district.

In 2023 SCHSL enacted a rule for their current 2024-26 alignment that created a 3x "out-of-zone" multiplier. The multiplier counts a single student who attends a school from outside the "attendance zone" (geographical school district) as three students when tallied in total enrollment. So in other words, if a public school has 310 boys enrolled and a total of 10 of those boys are living out of the school's assigned attendance zone, then those 10 boys get a 3-times multiplier assigned to them. So (300 x 1) + (10 x 3) = 330 boys in their adjusted enrollment figure.

29 minutes ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

In 2023 SCHSL enacted a rule for their current 2024-26 alignment that created a 3x "out-of-zone" multiplier. The multiplier counts a single student who attends a school from outside the "attendance zone" (geographical school district) as three students when tallied in total enrollment. So in other words, if a public school has 310 boys enrolled and a total of 10 of those boys are living out of the school's assigned attendance zone, then those 10 boys get a 3-times multiplier assigned to them. So (300 x 1) + (10 x 3) = 330 boys in their adjusted enrollment figure.

I don't know if South Carolina does it or not, but this option could also easily work along with a theoretical "attendance zone" created for private schools. Like just spit-balling....say KHSAA gives private school's a 5-mile radius as their assigned attendance zone. Then any student living within that radius of the private school's physical campus would count as 1 student toward the school's total enrollment, and any student living outside of that 5-mile radius would have the 3x multiplier assessed when calculating the school's total adjusted enrollment.

A 5-mile radius for a private school creates a 78-1/2 square-mile "district" for the school. But then you can go down to Jefferson County and there are students going to their high schools from all over their 398 square-mile school county school district. The new Christian County High School will be drawing students from all across its 724 square-mile county. Mercer County High School draws students from anywhere in its 253 square-mile county.

There's this perception among a lot of folks in the public school systems that private schools are drawing kids in from "all over the place." And while it's true that private schools do not have an actual geographical school district, and that, yes, there are some students who are making a decent drive to attend those private schools, the fact remains that the vast majority of private school kids live less than 2 or 3 miles from the school.

This is what a 5-mile radius from Covington Catholic looks like:

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I just wanna know how many schools it would cause to move to 1A! Seven schools in 1A have to use the multipler so I’m curious which schools have to move up to 2A because of it! Also curious if they will use the average of 24/25 and 25/26 or just use 25/26.

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14 hours ago, theguru said:

Seen on social media...

"So according to KY, a public school kid is equal to 3/4 of a private school kid?"

8 hours ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

Seen on social media...

"So according to KY, a public school kid is equal to 3/4 of a private school kid?"

CAHC alumni: 1787? ?

14 hours ago, theguru said:

2025-26 KHSAA Board of Control Members

Greg Howard
President, 2025-2026
Director, 2023-2027
Russellville
District Athletic Director
Warren County Schools
Regions 3-4

Damon Kelley
President-Elect, 2025-2026
Director, 2025-2029
Lexington
Athletic Director
Paul Laurence Dunbar High School
Regions 11-12

Brandy Carver
Director, 2023-2027
Morehead
Rowan County Schools
Assistant Superintendent
Regions 9-16

Brian Courtney
Director, 2022-2026
Cox’s Creek
Chief Operating Officer
Bardstown City Schools
Regions 1-8

Noel Crum
Director, 2024-2028
Stambaugh
Johnson County Schools
Assistant Superintendent
Regions 15-16

James Demler
Director, 2024-2028
Covington
Athletic Director
St. Henry District
Regions 9-16

Claudette Herald
Director, 2024-2028
Dry Ridge
Superintendent
Oldham County Public Schools
Regions 1-8

Mandi Hudson
Director, 2023-2027
Georgetown
KDE Appointed Member
Safety Engineer, TMMK

Randy McCallon
Director, 2022-2026
Murray
KDE Appointed Member
Retired Educator

Donna Moir
Director, 2025-2026
Louisville
Athletic Director/Basketball Coach
Sacred Heart Academy
Regions 1-8

Chuck Mullins
Director, 2024-2028
Hazard
KDE Appointed Member
Chief Engineer, Kentucky River Properties, Hazard

Michael Phillips
Director, 2022-2026
Taylorsville
Principal
Spencer County High School
Regions 5 & 8

Jeremy Roach
Director, 2025-2029
Princeton
Superintendent
Caldwell County Schools
Regions 1-2

Russell Thompson
Director, 2024-2028
Pineville
Superintendent
Pineville Public Schools
Regions 13-14

Gavin Washington
Director, 2025-2029
Versailles
KDE Appointed Member
Assoc. Professor of Sport Management, Midway University, Frankfort

Matt Wilhoite
Director, 2023-2027
Fort Wright
District Athletic Director
Kenton County Schools
Regions 9-10

Terry Yeast
Director, 2025-2029
Winchester
Athletic Director
George Rogers Clark High SChool
Regions 9-16

David Zuberer
Director, 2022-2026
Louisville
Athletic Director
duPont Manual High School
Regions 6 & 7

David Couch
Frankfort
Kentucky Department of
Education Liaison (ex-officio)

Julian Tackett
Commissioner and Secretary-Treasurer
Advisory per Constitution
Lexington
KHSAA


How is this group selected?   Are there term limits?   Seems like Tackett has a lifetime appointment — like a king or something.  I want to be clear he needs to go.  New leadership is needed at the top.  

There are lots of reasons being discussed here on why the system needs to be fixed. 

I ask this question....... IF Trinity and CAL were not as successful as they are would this be as big of an issue? 

Do people get upset when Boyle County wins like they do  compared to when CAL and T wins?

I think the main reason  CAL and T draw more kids is because the JCPS system is broken.  IF more kids were spread  throughout that district and bringing more parity would we be having this discussion.  Lots of families sacrificing to send their kids to those places rather than a JCPS school. A lot of those kids play football but most of them do not.

41 minutes ago, Footballfan24 said:

There are lots of reasons being discussed here on why the system needs to be fixed. 

I ask this question....... IF Trinity and CAL were not as successful as they are would this be as big of an issue? 

Do people get upset when Boyle County wins like they do  compared to when CAL and T wins?

I think the main reason  CAL and T draw more kids is because the JCPS system is broken.  IF more kids were spread  throughout that district and bringing more parity would we be having this discussion.  Lots of families sacrificing to send their kids to those places rather than a JCPS school. A lot of those kids play football but most of them do not.

CAL and Trinity are also in wealthier part of city so close to people that can afford private school. 

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