On 6/25/2025 at 12:28 PM, KingoftheCounty said:

I am hearing that JCPS schools are going to another platform other than HUDL.  Again, just what heard.

Qwikcut? 
 

We use Hudl but also Qwikcut because it uses AI to generate highlight videos for our guys / recruiting. 

So much uncertainty given the newness of this law, and not having see it be administered yet.  My Daughter In Law, who is a teacher in a school system in the same county as my daughter, asked if I could fill out a permission form so that she could text my daughter directly.  She takes her to the water park, shopping, etc a lot.  We couldn't find an exemption for In Laws, or tell for sure if her being employed by a different school system made a difference.  We figured it would be safer to go ahead and fill out the permission and not need it, rather than finding out it was a violation.  

26 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

So much uncertainty given the newness of this law, and not having see it be administered yet.  My Daughter In Law, who is a teacher in a school system in the same county as my daughter, asked if I could fill out a permission form so that she could text my daughter directly.  She takes her to the water park, shopping, etc a lot.  We couldn't find an exemption for In Laws, or tell for sure if her being employed by a different school system made a difference.  We figured it would be safer to go ahead and fill out the permission and not need it, rather than finding out it was a violation.  

Bizzarro world for sure and your decision to fill out the permission form(s) is ideal. 

3 hours ago, Falcon Pride said:

I know of at least TWO Catholic schools in Louisville that are having meetings about this very subject.

My GUESS is they will follow this as it seems to be law. There will be lawsuits concerning this is also a GUESS.

Covington Holy Cross has a meeting scheduled.

It was mentioned before that JCPS and other districts aren't allowing Hudl.  This is up to each school district to decide.  In my opinion, if coaches and students are using their school-issued email addresses on Hudl, that meets the requirements of being a "traceable communication system".

This is a complete and utter nightmare for anyone involved in education, and even moreso if that person does any type of extra curricular.

Retweeting players stuff for the hopes of recruiting seems to be a big no-no, which is bad for kids because so many colleges utilize X/Twitter for recruiting/communication.

This is also horrendous for anyone who is a teacher and has kids. 

Here's a couple of scenarios for you to consider. 

1. Let's say a teacher's child leaves with a few friends.  Parent needs to get ahold of said child, but his/her phone died or he/she forgot to bring it.  A normal parent would simply call the child's friend (I know I have my kids' friends' cell numbers just in case.).  Teacher parent now, will appear to be in violation of this new law, which could jeopardize their career.  

2. Teacher's kid is involved with an extra curricular.  Be it marching band, football, swimming, whatever it may be.  A normal parent takes photos at games/events documenting such awesome events and accomplishments and typically posts on social media for others to see.  Again, both snapping the photo and the posting of it would put the teacher in violation and jeopardize their career.

3. Teachers have other friends and family members, I know that's really weird for some people, but they do have lives.  Teacher may not even be able to "like" photos of his/her niece or nephew because they are students in the same district.  Teacher may not be able to like or comment on a picture of their own child posted by a friend, if it's a group shot with other students.

4. Volunteering for things like field trips.  As a teacher, could you chaperone your child's field trip?  This is more of an issue for "big field trips" at the middle and high school level.  Think things like Kings Island, or any out of town trip where students would get some sort of freedom and responsibility.  If they were supposed to meet somewhere at a specific time and they aren't there, calling their cell is the easiest way to find out if there's an emergency, or just teens being teens and losing track of time.  This could actually put someone in danger.  I know one year I was coaching high school football, and we had a kid who was diabetic.  We were in Columbus for the game.  Well, he was in the locker room, but didn't show up to the bus to go home.  His mom was in Cincy, didn't go to the game.  We couldn't find him for a while.  We kept calling his cell.  He went to concessions to get a pop since he said his blood sugar was low and we had already dumped the Gatorade. Cool, easy fix calling him.  Doing so now could be a violation the way I am understanding this.

This is going to cause massive confusion, fear, and uncertainty.  This will also probably drive some people away from the profession unless there is more clarity and common sense is implemented here.  

Now, my personal opinion is, do what's right by kids.  Period.  If that gets me in hot water or even fired, fine, I can deal with that.  I know there was many times after football games on Friday nights, I'd give kids rides home.  The minivan would be full.  Sometimes I made 2 trips.  parents couldn't be reached.  Kids didn't drive.  Metro stopped running the routes needed for the kid to get home.  What was I supposed to do, sit at school until 8 am the next morning with the kids so they could catch the bus?  I don't think so.  If that got me fired, I wouldn't have lost a wink of sleep, even though I definitely violated district policy.

 

I am uncertain about private schools, but I find it curious that the new law specifically mentions public school principals and district employees. Private school personnel are not district employees.

Each local board of education shall designate a traceable communication system to be the exclusive means for a school district employee or volunteer to communicate electronically with students. The principal of each public school shall provide parents written or electronic notification within the first ten (10) days of the school year of each electronic school notification and communication program designated within the traceable communication system. The notification shall include instructions for parents to access and review communications sent through each electronic school notification and communication program.

Private school teachers in Kentucky are not considered district employees. They work for independent, non-public institutions, which operate separately from the public school districts governed by local boards of education. That means they aren’t on the district payroll, don’t follow the same hiring procedures, and aren’t subject to the same certification or salary schedules as public school teachers.

After reading through this entire thread. I believe the answer is simple and right in front of our faces. Much like every kid must submit a physical, participation form and other things every year. Isn't the logical thing to include the "waiver" as essential paperwork and everything stays the same??? I maybe thinking too simple, but it makes sense to me.

Can good intentions sometimes produce unintended consequences?

1 hour ago, Oldercoach said:

Can good intentions sometimes produce unintended consequences?

From Google:

Saint Bernard, the 12th Century Abbot of Clairvaux in France, is cited as saying 'the road to hell is paved with good intentions'.

9 hours ago, BBHCEAGLE said:

After reading through this entire thread. I believe the answer is simple and right in front of our faces. Much like every kid must submit a physical, participation form and other things every year. Isn't the logical thing to include the "waiver" as essential paperwork and everything stays the same??? I maybe thinking too simple, but it makes sense to me.

Excellent point, it seems like any student could sign a universal waiver granting all school employees, coaches, volunteers, etc. communication rights with them equal to pre-KRS 160 levels.  Or put simply, a waiver saying they do not want KRS 160 applied to them in any way.  Additionally, the last line of the waiver could state, this waiver encompasses all communication (is allowed) between myself and any employee or volunteer in any setting under all circumstances for any reason.

10 hours ago, Cobraxx said:

I am uncertain about private schools, but I find it curious that the new law specifically mentions public school principals and district employees. Private school personnel are not district employees.

Each local board of education shall designate a traceable communication system to be the exclusive means for a school district employee or volunteer to communicate electronically with students. The principal of each public school shall provide parents written or electronic notification within the first ten (10) days of the school year of each electronic school notification and communication program designated within the traceable communication system. The notification shall include instructions for parents to access and review communications sent through each electronic school notification and communication program.

Private school teachers in Kentucky are not considered district employees. They work for independent, non-public institutions, which operate separately from the public school districts governed by local boards of education. That means they aren’t on the district payroll, don’t follow the same hiring procedures, and aren’t subject to the same certification or salary schedules as public school teachers.

I am not an attorney but based on all the specific language and specific omissions I don't see how this new law could be applied to private schools.  Additionally, I am sure many of those private schools have their legal staff working on it already. ?

This will cause a mass exodus of coaches to border states. You have kids who have a less than ideal home life, and they depend on these coaches as mother and father figures. 
 

In the time of crisis, you think they’re going to depend on some app to get that message directly to a coach? What if the WiFi is down? What if the app has glitches? The decisions of a few awful individuals are costing coaches who are in this business for the right reason: TO HELP AND PROMOTE KIDS! 

If it is confusing as it seems there will be a lot schools getting “in trouble” quickly. Is there a way to dumb down the language?

13 minutes ago, Breds82 said:

If it is confusing as it seems there will be a lot schools getting “in trouble” quickly. Is there a way to dumb down the language?

21 hours ago, theguru said:

In short, the ending summarizes it, the answer is no, no communication at all other than within the designated traceable communication system(s) or there is prior written parental consent.

There is no exception for accidental or innocuous communication. From the [Redacted]: “Unauthorized electronic communication . . . means an electronic communication with a student by a school district employee or volunteer who is not the student’s family member that occurs outside of a designated traceable communication system and without prior written parental consent.” This encompasses all communication between any student and any employee or volunteer in any setting under all circumstances for any reason.

I tried to do that with the above post but we could dumb it down more.  No!!!  No Communication! This encompasses all communication between any student and any employee or volunteer in any setting under all circumstances for any reason.  Again, No!