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New Section added to KRS Chapter 160 regulating school employee communication with students

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3 minutes ago, DearToday said:

Our school board has said we can retweet and like players posts. I think there’s some misinformation in that graphic. Our school board also said we can call students, but we can’t text them or have any form of direct messaging on social media etc. That if they reach out just don’t reply. And that it doesn’t matter if we follow them on Twitter as long as we don’t direct message. 

Thanks for sharing and I don't see how that is going to stand. 

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    The fact that this requires 10 pages of guidance shows how poorly thought out this thing was. Also, the fact that this applies to teacher's personal lives to such an extent means that it will kil

  • It’s a ridiculous law.  It punishes the good ones.  The people who are inappropriately communicating with students or players don’t care about the rules anyways.  

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    This is a complete and utter nightmare for anyone involved in education, and even moreso if that person does any type of extra curricular. Retweeting players stuff for the hopes of recruiting see

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7 minutes ago, theguru said:

Thanks for sharing and I don't see how that is going to stand. 

Me either at all. Apparently the state laid out some really basic guidelines, then left it up to each district to decide how they wanted to proceed the move forward with it. I was shocked to find out we were allowed to call players. Didn’t make any sense, but makes things slightly easier. 

It’s a ridiculous law.  It punishes the good ones.  The people who are inappropriately communicating with students or players don’t care about the rules anyways.  

That "can's" and "can't" list is not correct. 

Public school employees are prohibited from contacting students digitally outside of District-approved platforms. 

Whoever included the "liking" and "retweeting" aspects of that list is likely operating under a misinterpretation of the regulations or a District-specific directive that I would say 99% of Districts will not enforce, and honestly, is probably an infringement on people's civil liberties. 

3 hours ago, theguru said:

HUDL is definitely a form of electronic communication, I mean on some level that is the point of HUDL.

I could be wrong, but I thought HUDL messages from coaches to players and back are "traceable," I.e. they remain on the HUDL message board.

1 hour ago, VF111 said:

That "can's" and "can't" list is not correct. 

Public school employees are prohibited from contacting students digitally outside of District-approved platforms. 

Whoever included the "liking" and "retweeting" aspects of that list is likely operating under a misinterpretation of the regulations or a District-specific directive that I would say 99% of Districts will not enforce, and honestly, is probably an infringement on people's civil liberties. 

The "list" may not be correct, I definitely will give everyone that one.  However, it says "Each local board of education shall designate a traceable communication system to be the exclusive means for a school district employee or volunteer to communicate electronically with students."  

With that said, and this not directed at you VF111, it is for everyone, I don't think schools are going to have a choice to "not enforce" this. 

2 hours ago, DearToday said:

Me either at all. Apparently the state laid out some really basic guidelines, then left it up to each district to decide how they wanted to proceed the move forward with it. I was shocked to find out we were allowed to call players. Didn’t make any sense, but makes things slightly easier. 

That doesn't make any sense to me.  This is a new law, not some basic guidelines that leave it up to local districts.  

This one is not directed at you DT, again to everyone, but one thing I have always noticed about schools is they think they are special and can pretty much do whatever they want.  I realize I am painting with a broad brush but I am thinking this is going to be a reality check for many of you that are used to getting your way with almost everything. 

1 hour ago, Neno said:

It’s a ridiculous law.  It punishes the good ones.  The people who are inappropriately communicating with students or players don’t care about the rules anyways.  

I agree it is "punishment" to the 98% or more of teachers/coaches/etc. that are amazing and would never violate a child under any circumstances. 

16 minutes ago, theguru said:

That doesn't make any sense to me.  This is a new law, not some basic guidelines that leave it up to local districts.  

This one is not directed at you DT, again to everyone, but one thing I have always noticed about schools is they think they are special and can pretty much do whatever they want.  I realize I am painting with a broad brush but I am thinking this is going to be a reality check for many of you that are used to getting your way with almost everything. 

Yep for sure. You’d think the state would’ve been out very black and white can do this can’t do that. Instead, it was like here’s some basic guidelines, now write it up like you want as long as it fits into our basic guidelines. 

1 minute ago, DearToday said:

Yep for sure. You’d think the state would’ve been out very black and white can do this can’t do that. Instead, it was like here’s some basic guidelines, now write it up like you want as long as it fits into our basic guidelines. 

I guess I would need to see those "basic guidelines" that were given out.   

54 minutes ago, James Graham said:

I could be wrong, but I thought HUDL messages from coaches to players and back are "traceable," I.e. they remain on the HUDL message board.

The way I am reading this so far is HUDL will clearly be outside the "exclusive means" system used by all schools meaning there would need to be written permission on file for every student giving every coach access to use HUDL.  Beyond that, it would be a no go.  Again everyone, these are just my opinions reading the law. 

I understand why this is being done. But it seems a bit excessive and a slippery slope. 

11 minutes ago, theguru said:

The way I am reading this so far is HUDL will clearly be outside the "exclusive means" system used by all schools meaning there would need to be written permission on file for every student giving every coach access to use HUDL.  Beyond that, it would be a no go.  Again everyone, these are just my opinions reading the law. 

Our school told us not to direct message kids through Hudl. Our district is using ParentSquare (they’re buying out remind). To either use that, school email, or if it’s urgent call the player directly. 

7 minutes ago, DearToday said:

Our school told us not to direct message kids through Hudl. Our district is using ParentSquare (they’re buying out remind). To either use that, school email, or if it’s urgent call the player directly. 

My advice to everyone would be to not have any contact with any child outside of approved school functions.  Eventually we will all have a better grip on this but until then better safe than sorry. 

I asked Coach Buchanan of Anderson County how Anderson is handling the new law and he told me:

"We are using Parent Square, exclusively. Remind is dead. We can still use Hudl for video and Notes on the video, but messaging is over. We can call students on school phone but not our personal phone. Overall, I give my Bosses and technology department an A+ on communication, common sense, and coming up with a workable plan."

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Thanks for that @ChiefSmoke and I like what I see there.  

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