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Why is Coach Sullivan being forced out of Cooper?

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13 hours ago, No Hiding Here....BC 21 said:

In the true meaning of it, you are correct.
The block or release is in how slow or fast the paperwork gets filled out & signed by the school one is leaving.

There is a time limit on getting the paperwork completed once the receiving school sends it to the receiving school. 

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  • Eagle_fan_2026
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    I just don't understand people anymore.  I don't see how anyone wants to continue to be a coach or be a high school referee.    

  • LCDAWGS19
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    You should've had your mom go complain to the Coach. LOL

  • If your boss wants you out, and you have lots of options in life, do you really want to fight it?  More of a general question than anything. 

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On 5/7/2025 at 5:00 PM, 9068 said:

So the student becomes automatically eligible at their new school? I've been out of the business for a while but thought that if there is no change in residence that there were procedures involved that affected eligibility. This was always a sticking point going from public to private or vice versa. Sure glad we have someone to help all of us dinosaurs.

Not immediately eligible unless there is no varsity action. If they have played varsity as a high school student then they are ineligible unless they meet one of the requirements. For ex. a new residence. 

20 hours ago, Legacy26 said:

I believe the only exception to the "ANY amount of time on varsity" is if you play varsity but are not actually enrolled in the high school, I.e. a middle school student that has played varsity can transfer with no requirement to sit.  

I believe that is correct.  

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On 5/6/2025 at 8:34 PM, Honey Badger said:

So Sully to St. Henry is pretty legit? Crazy to think his culture was wrong at Cooper but is what St. Henry is looking for. Great and ballsy move by St. Henry. I give them my applause ?. Over the next couple of years does he start to bring in the talent like he had at Cooper? There is some ballers out there that would like to play for him. If they make their way to St. Henry their football team could really benefit from it as well.

I had/have very similar thoughts. It is truly remarkable how much has changed at that school in the last ~5 years, or at least since I graduated from there in ‘17. But I’m not holding my breath until I see an announcement. Too good to be true… maybe:classic_biggrin:

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1 hour ago, DukeDog said:

 

 

Appeal hearing?  Suspect (don’t know) this appeal is before the Supt. who is in his first year on the job.  Would find it a stretch that he would overrule the 17 year principal of Cooper.  Despite the facts(?) it would create potential issues with the all other system principals questioning whether their authorities are too subject to be overruled.  If Supt. had more time in grade he might feel more flexibility.  Just would not expect the principal to be overruled.

37 minutes ago, Oldercoach said:

Appeal hearing?  Suspect (don’t know) this appeal is before the Supt. who is in his first year on the job.  Would find it a stretch that he would overrule the 17 year principal of Cooper.  Despite the facts(?) it would create potential issues with the all other system principals questioning whether their authorities are too subject to be overruled.  If Supt. had more time in grade he might feel more flexibility.  Just would not expect the principal to be overruled.

Do you think a principal's decision should never be overruled? Why have an appeal process if that is true? 

I think principals who know their decisions are never going to be overruled is a problem. 

1 hour ago, Oldercoach said:

Appeal hearing?  Suspect (don’t know) this appeal is before the Supt. who is in his first year on the job.  Would find it a stretch that he would overrule the 17 year principal of Cooper.  Despite the facts(?) it would create potential issues with the all other system principals questioning whether their authorities are too subject to be overruled.  If Supt. had more time in grade he might feel more flexibility.  Just would not expect the principal to be overruled.

This is a great point as is VORs. Just because he is a newbie doesn’t mean his decision isn’t the correct one, but he also doesn’t have the confidence of everyone either. If your the superintendent you achieved that spot for a reason, you have to do what you feel is right in this situation.

My memory is foggy here but didn't Coach Sullivan already meet with the Super a couple of months ago?

5 minutes ago, theguru said:

My memory is foggy here but didn't Coach Sullivan already meet with the Super a couple of months ago?

Yes, that was stated earlier in the thread. We now have some conflicting reports. The earlier report was Sullivan met with the super and HR and did not meet with the principal.

The Super's length of tenure should have zero impact on whether or not he should or should not overturn a Principal's decision...

40 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

I think principals who know their decisions are never going to be overruled is a problem. 

This x100. 

2 hours ago, theguru said:

My memory is foggy here but didn't Coach Sullivan already meet with the Super a couple of months ago?

Meeting already held and super said an appeal goes to him and he supports the decision.  This had already been resolved.

2 hours ago, TheDeuce said:

The Super's length of tenure should have zero impact on whether or not he should or should not overturn a Principal's decision...

And that would be true in a perfect world.  But a rookie Supt probably was advised  by the 17 year principal and concurred earlier before all this action was set in motion.  No backing down and leaving the principal skewered alone….had to hang in there supporting the decision they certainly had jointly made. 

Sully was coach of the year? The superintendent, principal and AD all need fired.

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