2 hours ago, Royals and Saints Fan said:

Dang you are good!  We need someone in the 10th like you (and its not me).

Thank you! @brooksville is on it, his website/social media is legit!

1 hour ago, ConverseAllStar said:

* for all-male schools like St. X, Trinity . . . multiply their enrollment by two?

Right.

Those 5 schools, the "biggest in the state" have the following total enrollments/boys enrolled:

1.  Lafayette:  2440/1214

2.  Madison Central:  2225/1125

3.  Eastern:  2043/1111

4.  Henry Clay:  2036/1028

5.  Ballard:  2020/997

Meanwhile, St. X has 1090 boys, and Trinity has 1173.  

 

 

2 hours ago, ConverseAllStar said:

* for all-male schools like St. X, Trinity . . . multiply their enrollment by two?

They used to do it that way, and loosely speaking, it still works. There are some schools, like Central that have many more girls than boys because of their magnet programs. 

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The Top 25 Schools - Boys Only:

1. Lafayette R11 1214; 2. Trinity R7 1173; 3. McCracken Co. R1 1125; 4. Eastern R7 1111; 5. St. Xavier R7 1090.

6. Ryle R9 1035; 7. Henry Clay R11 1028; 8. Paul Laurence Dunbar R11 1002; 9. Ballard R7 997; 10. Madison Central R11 995.

11. Henderson Co. R2 986.; 12. Central Hardin R5 964; 13. Bryan Station R11 956; 14. Tates Creek R11 937; 15. Simon Kenton R8 931.

16. Fern Creek R6 926; 17. Male R7 919; 18. Great Crossing R11 902; 19. Daviess Co. R3 881; 20. Oldham Co. R8 872.

21. North Hardin R5 860; 22. Frederick Douglass R11 852; 23. George Rogers Clark R10 848; 24. duPont Manual R7 836; 25. Southern R6 811. 

It is interesting to compare boys to girls ratios within a co-ed school. Some schools with successful programs (across one or more sports) have boy/girl or girl/boy ratios on the fringes of the statistical range. Into this, factor in a school's participation value across all sports, and one can see how a school might seem "great at everything."span widget

I'm curious as to how they set up the draw. I know winners play losers and you can't play your district. So what team draws first and how many teams has to draw to compete these brackets.

37 minutes ago, Deaconjim said:

I'm curious as to how they set up the draw. I know winners play losers and you can't play your district. So what team draws first and how many teams has to draw to compete these brackets.

I believe the four winners are drawn into their spots. Then the runners up from the District are put in opposite halves. 
For example: Collins and Oldham went to one draw for the bottom bracket and Owen and Grant drew for the top bracket.

35 minutes ago, Mack The Knife said:

I believe the four winners are drawn into their spots. Then the runners up from the District are put in opposite halves. 
For example: Collins and Oldham went to one draw for the bottom bracket and Owen and Grant drew for the top bracket.

I’d like it better if the district winner and losers did not both play against the same districts.  It’s 31st vs 30th and 29th vs 32nd in all 1st round games.

9 hours ago, Royals and Saints Fan said:

I know SK has grown a lot but I still doubt they were ever smaller than Mason but I am not 100%.  And I've heard somewhere that "Size Doesn't Matter, Results Matter"!

About 1,100 students that year.

Anyone remember what else SK was "famous" for that school year?

4 hours ago, Colonel-Rebel Fan said:

I’d like it better if the district winner and losers did not both play against the same districts.  It’s 31st vs 30th and 29th vs 32nd in all 1st round games.

That was luck of the draw.   Not by design.

7 hours ago, ColonelMike said:

About 1,100 students that year.

Anyone remember what else SK was "famous" for that school year?

Didn’t the SK students actually attend different schools because SK was closed down? The school had an issue with a water pipe bursting or maybe it was a gas line?

Its been a few years but I seem to recall something like that.

9 hours ago, ColonelMike said:

About 1,100 students that year.

Anyone remember what else SK was "famous" for that school year?

Explosion!

1 hour ago, 4 Quarters said:

Explosion!

To wit:

"A gas explosion in the basement boiler room killed a student in the art room next door and hurt several others on Oct. 9, 1980. Thirty minutes later, a second explosion -10 times more powerful than the first - injured more than two dozen firefighters and utility workers who had responded to the first emergency...

 

A local deputy said the second blast knocked first responders off their feet and scattered them like bowling pins. Most suffered burns and many were taken by ambulance to St. Elizabeth Hospital. The rest of the students had been evacuated before the second explosion. Worried parents rushed to a nearby school to find their teens and hug them.

But a 16-year-old junior, Robert Williams,  was killed when the first explosion blew apart the cinder block wall between the boiler room and the art room. He had been standing close to the wall....

The two explosions and resulting fire caused about $1.5 million damage to the school and forced Simon Kenton students to take classes at the newly-opened Scott High School. Scott students attended in the morning and Simon Kenton held classes from 1:30 to 7:30 p.m.

Meanwhile, the Simon Kenton basketball team found itself without a gym to practice or play in. They ended up practicing all over Northern Kentucky....

State and federal agencies investigated the explosions at Simon Kenton. The National Transportation  and Safety Board  blamed the gas company at the time, Union Light, Heat & Power – a subsidiary of Cincinnati Gas & Electric. A utility crew had mistakenly hooked a high-pressure main gas line to the school a few weeks before. At the same time the utility was testing the line,  the school turned on the heat during a cool October spell. Gas then escaped and ignited in the school."

https://www.wcpo.com/news/our-community/from-the-vault/from-the-vault-simon-kenton-high-school-turns-tragedy-to-triumph-after-1980-gas-explosions-fire

11 hours ago, ColonelMike said:

About 1,100 students that year.

Anyone remember what else SK was "famous" for that school year?

Yes?

19 hours ago, Runcible Owl said:

Agree on the "results matter." I'm glad we're on common ground on "less than 100%." Look forward to continuing what BGP is known for - spirited and considerate debate.

It does seem crazy that SK might have been smaller, and at my age I may have misremembered the facts. It bugs me enough to do some research, which for me, is a blast. 

There was a period in the 1980/81 schoolyear when there were zero students at SK. The Pioneer student body had to take second session classes at Scott due to a gas explosion tragedy at the school. The basketball team had to practice at other gyms too. 

The link to that story ~

wcpo-the-vault-simon-kenton-high-school-turns-tragedy-to-triumph-after-1980-gas-explosions-fire

Regardless of size, after the explosion, they had an underdog, feel good, story. They might have been bigger than Mason Co., but they were definitely smaller than Boone Co., Conner, Dixie, Holmes, and Campbell Co. SK opened in 1937. I don't think they won a title, Regional or otherwise, in any sport until '81. They didn't have the numbers to support a football team until the mid/late 60's. In my mind that seems small.

While the area around Dixie Heights  exploded with development in the '50s through the '70s, Independence remained relatively rural. Dixie and Simon Kenton were built with identical floor plans (see below). Dixie had an addition built in the '60s and SK didn't. The last time, in the era we're talking about, I was on campus for an officials clinic. It still looked a lot like this. ? 

Good luck to your Royals this week. Cheers!

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23 minutes ago, Mojocat said:

To wit:

"A gas explosion in the basement boiler room killed a student in the art room next door and hurt several others on Oct. 9, 1980. Thirty minutes later, a second explosion -10 times more powerful than the first - injured more than two dozen firefighters and utility workers who had responded to the first emergency...

 

A local deputy said the second blast knocked first responders off their feet and scattered them like bowling pins. Most suffered burns and many were taken by ambulance to St. Elizabeth Hospital. The rest of the students had been evacuated before the second explosion. Worried parents rushed to a nearby school to find their teens and hug them.

But a 16-year-old junior, Robert Williams,  was killed when the first explosion blew apart the cinder block wall between the boiler room and the art room. He had been standing close to the wall....

The two explosions and resulting fire caused about $1.5 million damage to the school and forced Simon Kenton students to take classes at the newly-opened Scott High School. Scott students attended in the morning and Simon Kenton held classes from 1:30 to 7:30 p.m.

Meanwhile, the Simon Kenton basketball team found itself without a gym to practice or play in. They ended up practicing all over Northern Kentucky....

State and federal agencies investigated the explosions at Simon Kenton. The National Transportation  and Safety Board  blamed the gas company at the time, Union Light, Heat & Power – a subsidiary of Cincinnati Gas & Electric. A utility crew had mistakenly hooked a high-pressure main gas line to the school a few weeks before. At the same time the utility was testing the line,  the school turned on the heat during a cool October spell. Gas then escaped and ignited in the school."

https://www.wcpo.com/news/our-community/from-the-vault/from-the-vault-simon-kenton-high-school-turns-tragedy-to-triumph-after-1980-gas-explosions-fire

Wow, I’d never heard that story. Thanks for sharing!

57 minutes ago, Mojocat said:

To wit:

"A gas explosion in the basement boiler room killed a student in the art room next door and hurt several others on Oct. 9, 1980. Thirty minutes later, a second explosion -10 times more powerful than the first - injured more than two dozen firefighters and utility workers who had responded to the first emergency...

 

A local deputy said the second blast knocked first responders off their feet and scattered them like bowling pins. Most suffered burns and many were taken by ambulance to St. Elizabeth Hospital. The rest of the students had been evacuated before the second explosion. Worried parents rushed to a nearby school to find their teens and hug them.

But a 16-year-old junior, Robert Williams,  was killed when the first explosion blew apart the cinder block wall between the boiler room and the art room. He had been standing close to the wall....

The two explosions and resulting fire caused about $1.5 million damage to the school and forced Simon Kenton students to take classes at the newly-opened Scott High School. Scott students attended in the morning and Simon Kenton held classes from 1:30 to 7:30 p.m.

Meanwhile, the Simon Kenton basketball team found itself without a gym to practice or play in. They ended up practicing all over Northern Kentucky....

State and federal agencies investigated the explosions at Simon Kenton. The National Transportation  and Safety Board  blamed the gas company at the time, Union Light, Heat & Power – a subsidiary of Cincinnati Gas & Electric. A utility crew had mistakenly hooked a high-pressure main gas line to the school a few weeks before. At the same time the utility was testing the line,  the school turned on the heat during a cool October spell. Gas then escaped and ignited in the school."

https://www.wcpo.com/news/our-community/from-the-vault/from-the-vault-simon-kenton-high-school-turns-tragedy-to-triumph-after-1980-gas-explosions-fire

I'd never heard that before.  Tragic, but also clearly could have been more tragic.  I wonder how bad it would have been if the second explosion magnitude had come earlier. 

36 minutes ago, Colonel-Rebel Fan said:

Wow, I’d never heard that story. Thanks for sharing!

That's it.    Incredible year - both good and bad - for SK.   The school blows up in the fall of the year, the kids have to go to school at the newly-built Scott High - and the basketball team wins the state championship.   Wild.