Brcatz Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Baseball Nut 24 said: So no technical foul on Kinney for kicking #30? Not sure how you miss that. Refs did a good job giving the double technical in my opinion but again it depends on which side of this game you were on. And I mentioned above BOTH players were at fault. None of this determined the outcome of the game. HC played good, Newport came back and played good to make it a game. HC won the game. I don't see a kick at all. I see the Newport player trying to establish his footing as he comes down and the HC player is laying there when his foot comes down. I think the ref's call was on the HC player at first the way he is looking at it. Which should have been foul shots I believe for Newport, but then with the shoving match so it went to the wayside. Not sure who they called a foul on or if they even did for the initial rebound scrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brcatz Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hoops Junkie said: What about the tech on Kinney for the kick? and I am saying the initial foul took place on the rebound and should have been on Kinney, which is why I thought the first whistle was blown. I don't see a kick, the whistle comes after the HC players grabs the Newport players foot and was then called as the ref runs in. Looks like the call could have been a tripping as the Newport player had possession of the ball and was trying to move up court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baseball Nut 24 Posted January 15, 2023 Author Share Posted January 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, Hoops Junkie said: What about the tech on Kinney for the kick? and I am saying the initial foul took place on the rebound and should have been on Kinney, which is why I thought the first whistle was blown. I misunderstood you. My apologies. And we agree on the initial whistle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brcatz Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Hard foul on Javy 3rd qtr at 1:04:40 Jake ally dunk at 1:13:40 in 3rd also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoops Junkie Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Brcatz said: I don't see a kick, the whistle comes after the HC players grabs the Newport players foot and was then called as the ref runs in. Looks like the call could have been a tripping as the Newport player had possession of the ball and was trying to move up court. The angle I had was pretty good. There was definitely a kick 100%. If you don't see a kick that means you weren't there and are trying to evaluate from the top row of a video. As @Baseball Nut 24put it I guess you can see it differently from which side you were on, and I guess I was rooting for HC so take with a grain of salt if you would like, and I know you are an anti-HC and anti-Meyer guy so I guess that's where the difference lies. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brcatz Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Hoops Junkie said: The angle I had was pretty good. There was definitely a kick 100%. If you don't see a kick that means you weren't there and are trying to evaluate from the top row of a video. As @Baseball Nut 24put it I guess you can see it differently from which side you were on, and I guess I was rooting for HC so take with a grain of salt if you would like, and I know you are an anti-HC and anti-Meyer guy so I guess that's where the difference lies. Not at all, I'm a Meyer fan. I just don't see a kick I see a push off trying to get his footing on a bang bang play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baseball Nut 24 Posted January 15, 2023 Author Share Posted January 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hoops Junkie said: The angle I had was pretty good. There was definitely a kick 100%. If you don't see a kick that means you weren't there and are trying to evaluate from the top row of a video. As @Baseball Nut 24put it I guess you can see it differently from which side you were on, and I guess I was rooting for HC so take with a grain of salt if you would like, and I know you are an anti-HC and anti-Meyer guy so I guess that's where the difference lies. The bad part is that this one play in the final second of the half is taking away from the high-level of championship game that BOTH teams put on display. Jacob Meyer was huge with 40 points. Marquez Miller with 28 was tremendous. Both teams will be a tough out come district and regional tournament time. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brcatz Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, Baseball Nut 24 said: The bad part is that this one play in the final second of the half is taking away from the high-level of championship game that BOTH teams put on display. Jacob Meyer was huge with 40 points. Marquez Miller with 28 was tremendous. Both teams will be a tough out come district and regional tournament time. Both those kids had a ton of shots and misses also. Just think if they had made a few more each. Hard to believe Jake only had 2 free throws attempted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brcatz Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Holy Cross stats Players Jersey Player 30 Ambrocio, Donovan 3 Arlinghaus, Luke 0 Dreas, Matthew 55 Gibson, Sam 12 Meyer, Jacob 13 Reinersman, Carson 2 Smith, Jacob 1 Ward, Javier Team 30 Total Field Goals Made (2pt and 3pt) 59 Total Field Goals Attempted (2pt and 3pt) 50.8% Total Field Goal % 11 Total 3-Point Field Goals Made 25 Total 3-Point Field Goals Attempted 44.0% Total 3-Point Field Goal % 3 Total Free Throws Made 6 Total Free Throws Attempted 50.0% Total Free Throw % 23 Total Rebounds Scoring Jersey Player 2-point Field Goals Scored 2-point Field Goals Attempted 3-point Field Goals Scored 3-point Field Goals Attempted Free Throws Scored Free Throws Attempted Total Points Team 19 34 11 25 3 6 74 12 Meyer, Jacob 15 26 3 9 1 2 40 1 Ward, Javier 2 3 4 8 2 2 18 2 Smith, Jacob 0 1 2 4 0 0 6 30 Ambrocio, Donovan 1 1 1 1 0 0 5 0 Dreas, Matthew 0 0 1 3 0 0 3 55 Gibson, Sam 1 3 0 0 0 0 2 3 Arlinghaus, Luke 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 Field Goals (2pt and 3pt) Jersey Player Field Goals Made Field Goals Attempted Field Goal % Team 30 59 50.8% 30 Ambrocio, Donovan 2 2 100.0% 1 Ward, Javier 6 11 54.5% 12 Meyer, Jacob 18 35 51.4% 2 Smith, Jacob 2 5 40.0% 55 Gibson, Sam 1 3 33.3% 0 Dreas, Matthew 1 3 33.3% 3-Point Field Goals Jersey Player 3-Point Field Goals Made 3-Point Field Goals Attempted 3-Point Field Goal % Team 11 25 44.0% 30 Ambrocio, Donovan 1 1 100.0% 2 Smith, Jacob 2 4 50.0% 1 Ward, Javier 4 8 50.0% 12 Meyer, Jacob 3 9 33.3% 0 Dreas, Matthew 1 3 33.3% Free Throws Jersey Player Free Throws Made Free Throws Attempted Free Throw % Team 3 6 50.0% 1 Ward, Javier 2 2 100.0% 12 Meyer, Jacob 1 2 50.0% 3 Arlinghaus, Luke 2 0.0% Rebounds Jersey Player Rebounds Team 23 0 Dreas, Matthew 3 1 Ward, Javier 3 2 Smith, Jacob 1 12 Meyer, Jacob 10 30 Ambrocio, Donovan 1 55 Gibson, Sam 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brcatz Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Newport Stats Players Jersey Player 1 Anderson, DaShawn 2 Covington, Jabari 0 Kinney, Taylen 5 Miller, Marquez 11 Silverton , Noah 4 Turner , James Team 31 Total Field Goals Made (2pt and 3pt) 70 Total Field Goals Attempted (2pt and 3pt) 44.3% Total Field Goal % 2 Total 3-Point Field Goals Made 10 Total 3-Point Field Goals Attempted 20.0% Total 3-Point Field Goal % 8 Total Free Throws Made 12 Total Free Throws Attempted 66.7% Total Free Throw % 40 Total Rebounds Scoring Jersey Player 2-point Field Goals Scored 2-point Field Goals Attempted 3-point Field Goals Scored 3-point Field Goals Attempted Free Throws Scored Free Throws Attempted Total Points Team 29 60 2 10 8 12 72 5 Miller, Marquez 13 21 0 1 2 4 28 0 Kinney, Taylen 6 10 1 3 2 2 17 4 Turner , James 4 8 0 1 4 6 12 2 Covington, Jabari 5 14 0 1 0 0 10 11 Silverton , Noah 1 4 1 2 0 0 5 1 Anderson, DaShawn 0 3 0 2 0 0 0 Field Goals (2pt and 3pt) Jersey Player Field Goals Made Field Goals Attempted Field Goal % Team 31 70 44.3% 5 Miller, Marquez 13 22 59.1% 0 Kinney, Taylen 7 13 53.8% 4 Turner , James 4 9 44.4% 2 Covington, Jabari 5 15 33.3% 11 Silverton , Noah 2 6 33.3% 1 Anderson, DaShawn 0 5 0.0% 3-Point Field Goals Jersey Player 3-Point Field Goals Made 3-Point Field Goals Attempted 3-Point Field Goal % Team 2 10 20.0% 11 Silverton , Noah 1 2 50.0% 0 Kinney, Taylen 1 3 33.3% 1 Anderson, DaShawn 0 2 0.0% 2 Covington, Jabari 0 1 0.0% 4 Turner , James 0 1 0.0% 5 Miller, Marquez 0 1 0.0% Free Throws Jersey Player Free Throws Made Free Throws Attempted Free Throw % Team 8 12 66.7% 0 Kinney, Taylen 2 2 100.0% 4 Turner , James 4 6 66.7% 5 Miller, Marquez 2 4 50.0% Rebounds Jersey Player Rebounds Team 40 0 Kinney, Taylen 5 1 Anderson, DaShawn 3 2 Covington, Jabari 8 4 Turner , James 7 5 Miller, Marquez 15 11 Silverton , Noah 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Double Deuce Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Is the Mcelheney kid still hurt for Holy Cross? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brcatz Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Double Deuce said: Is the Mcelheney kid still hurt for Holy Cross? Not sure, when did he get hurt, he played the night before against Ludlow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Double Deuce Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Just now, Brcatz said: Not sure, when did he get hurt, he played the night before against Ludlow. He was hurt early in the season, but I don't see his name on the stats you shared (thanks for that!), so I am wondering if he re-injured it. Seems odd you wouldn't use him (2nd biggest guy on the team, started games early in the season, I believe) in a game where Marquez is on the other end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brcatz Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, The Double Deuce said: He was hurt early in the season, but I don't see his name on the stats you shared (thanks for that!), so I am wondering if he re-injured it. Seems odd you wouldn't use him (2nd biggest guy on the team, started games early in the season, I believe) in a game where Marquez is on the other end. KHSAA says he only played in 5 games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baseball Nut 24 Posted January 15, 2023 Author Share Posted January 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Double Deuce said: He was hurt early in the season, but I don't see his name on the stats you shared (thanks for that!), so I am wondering if he re-injured it. Seems odd you wouldn't use him (2nd biggest guy on the team, started games early in the season, I believe) in a game where Marquez is on the other end. Will McElheney was hurt to begin the season and hasn't started any games for Holy Cross. You might be thinking about Carson Reinersman who started a few games early when we were missing Matt Dreas for a few games and Javier Ward who missed a game. McElheney is just starting to get back to playing from his injury and has been playing "mainly" JV. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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