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War in Ukraine

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  • Beechwoodfan
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    Very scary times.  I have been reading quite a bit about this, and won’t pretend to be an expert, but I still cannot believe that Russia is so brazen and is getting away with this.  Prayers to the peo

  • Jumper_Dad
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    Another Russian General has been killed.  Ukrainian intelligence intercepted a call between two FSB agents discussing it. They were using regular SIM card cell phones because their secure communi

  • "You started it." Signed,  Everyone

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36 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

True, because THE WORLD hasn't united on an issue like this since 1941. This is not an US issue. It is a WORLD issue. There is nothing, I emphasize nothing, US could have done to prevent this.

It is a world issue but the US is viewed as the world police and always has been.  We still have the most dominant military in the world.  For whatever reason, Russia saw an opportunity and took it.  The literally staged their troops on the Ukrainian border for a month before attacking. They weren’t passive about it.

From the Great Google Machine:

Is Russia banned from the Paralympics?

Russian and Belarusian athletes banned from Beijing 2022 Winter Paralympics. The International Paralympic Committee (IPC) said Thursday it was banning Russian and Belarusian athletes from the Beijing 2022 Paralympic Winter Games, which begin on Friday.

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So Russia could compete in the Olympics as the ROC, they could have an athlete fail a drug test and still compete, but the para athletes are being punished.  Cruel if you ask me. 

It’s hard to believe that Ukraine will hold until the end of the month?  What happens afterwards?  

9 hours ago, PP1 said:

A couple of days ago I had contact with a Crimean citizen named Andreas who was a member of my Dad's church. Crimea, part of Ukraine, was annexed to Russia in 2014 so Andreas is considered a Russian Citizen or citizen of a Russian territory. He is allowed to flee to safety but his father is soon to die of cancer. If he stays in Crimea to be with him, he will probably be drafted into the Russian Army and have to fight against the Ukrainians who are his own countrymen. If he flees, he never sees his dad again.

 

When you say your prayers tonight, keep Andreas in mind please. 

As much as it’s a part of our history and talked about here. I’ve genuinely never given much thought to a country like Russia utilizing the draft. 

7 hours ago, theguru said:

One of my Ukrainian Facebook Friends posted the following last night:

Please pray.  My family member was killed in Ukraine today. He left a Wife, 2 kids and 2 grand kids. It was not accident. It was few hours killing ...that I can't even show the pictures of this  because it is can't be watching by human....  it horror...they are used no human  .......it was used by (edited).. I am so broke...

Heart breaking. I believe Fox19 and Fox News may have a special in the morning featuring a local name. 

7 hours ago, theguru said:

We are in lockstep.  Additionally, I think we should have redundant sources of energy in America and eventually the world. On tangent, I would like to see nuclear power plants make a comeback. 

Can’t believe how Germany went all in on going green and excluded nuclear from that initiative completely. They’ve put themselves in quite a bind as a result. 

5 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

We here in the US are very good at making things all about us. Ukraine is fighting for its very existence but we complain about gas prices here. These are worldwide issues over the past 2 years but here it is all about us and what "they" are doing to us. People act like we control all these things happening in the world. We don't. It is that simple.

The only thing I can think of that may have prevented this war in the Ukraine would have been THE WORLD reacting to Crimea like they are to Ukraine. But THE WORLD did not. Thankfully THE WORLD is responding now. Let's hope it isn't too late.

I know that a lot of the Western Allies are sending blood, weapons, money etc.  it just doesn’t seem like it’s more than saying “we really tried”. I dunno.  I get the totality of it all but it’s not like this came out of no where.  That’s probably what bothers me more than anything. 

56 minutes ago, John Anthony said:

It is a world issue but the US is viewed as the world police and always has been.  We still have the most dominant military in the world.  For whatever reason, Russia saw an opportunity and took it.  The literally staged their troops on the Ukrainian border for a month before attacking. They weren’t passive about it.

And what could have been done? By any country? 

Here is one point I have wondered about. Ukraine has 900,000 reserves. To my knowledge they did not call up or activate any of them before the invasion. Ukraine insisted Russia would nit invade even days before it started. Maybe 200,000 reserves activated and sent to counter the Russian troop build up would have helped prevent it?

Nuclear power plant in Ukraine is on fire after being attacked by Russians. 

17 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

Nuclear power plant in Ukraine is on fire after being attacked by Russians. 

Just saw this as well.  Not sure how well thought out this was by Russia unless they're hoping to end this soon by means of others stepping in. 

23 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

Nuclear power plant in Ukraine is on fire after being attacked by Russians. 

 

4 minutes ago, sportsfan41 said:

Just saw this as well.  Not sure how well thought out this was by Russia unless they're hoping to end this soon by means of others stepping in. 

This could be worse than Chernobyl which is also in Ukraine.  Come on people!

1 hour ago, Voice of Reason said:

And what could have been done? By any country? 

Here is one point I have wondered about. Ukraine has 900,000 reserves. To my knowledge they did not call up or activate any of them before the invasion. Ukraine insisted Russia would nit invade even days before it started. Maybe 200,000 reserves activated and sent to counter the Russian troop build up would have helped prevent it?

No, Russia decided to attack weeks to months ago.  The 200,000 soldiers are already activated, on top of thousands of civilians.  China asked Russia to wait until after the Olympics.  Usually, when the US warns against something it’s a deterrent.  Not so much this time.  Ukraine isn’t even eligible to join NATO, Russia had no threat against them.  They decided months ago this was the time to attack.

32 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

Nuclear power plant in Ukraine is on fire after being attacked by Russians. 

Jeez Louise 

If Russia is indeed actively shooting at this nuclear plant, it’s time to end this, now. 

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