November 13, 200619 yr I don't know...I think you also need to take in the season as a whole, Brian's recovery from a second surgery, his big wins vs Miami and WVU...a brand new unit under center. I think Brian's season speaks for itself. Andre's is nice though. You said..."Playing Woodsons season"? I dont understand what your point is...
November 13, 200619 yr So? What does that say? Andre is better you are right....if only there were some more MSU's, Vandy's, and 2 D-1AA's this year. Strength of Schedule?
November 13, 200619 yr Against his weakest 5 opponents, he had 17 TD and 3 INT. He completed 66% of his passes for an average of 298. That was 9.6 yds per attempt. Against his best 5 opponents he's had 7 TD and 4 INT. He completed 56% of his passes for an average of 217. That was 6.7 yds per attempt. This was what I was trying to get to.
November 13, 200619 yr Right, but then you have a team like WVU where they droppes 8 people when U of L got into the redzone....it's hard to pass through that if you are Peyton himself. But if he is one of the best then he should be able to make adjustments and complete passes true? He may look comfy in the pocket but look at the Rutgers game he was dancing like Jerry Springer in the pocket. Only a few times did he stay in there and attempt to make good throws. Instead he wanted to dance. One thing about Woodson is he has taken some sacks instead of making bad throws.
November 13, 200619 yr So? What does that say? Andre is better you are right....if only there were some more MSU's, Vandy's, and 2 D-1AA's this year. Only 1 AA team, Texas St. LA-Monroe is 1A, in the Sunbelt Conference.
November 13, 200619 yr Performance against schedule...how has Andre fared against Top teams? Define "Top" Here you go: In looking at D1 Passing (yardage) Defensive rankings we find this: Brohms Opponents - UK (119), UC (55), Temple (93), Miami (42), SYR (90), WV (78), Rutgers (2). Average of 68.4 ranking. Woodson's Opponents - UL (72), CM (85), UF (74), Miss (56), UGA (14), LSU (13), SC (31), MSU (83), & Vandy (51, 16 prior to UK). Average of 53.2 ranking. Comparably ranked opponents of each: for Brohm, #55 UC, Woodson #56 Ole Miss. Brohm vs/ UC: 20/37 (54%), 324 yd., 1 TD, 1 INT Woodson vs/ Ole Miss: 22/34 (65%), 293 yd., 3 TD, 0INT Versus Top 5 Defensive Opponents (Pass yardage): Brohm: 80/129 (62%) - 1225 yds - 5 TD - 2 INT Woodson: 106/176 (60%) - 1387 yds - 10 TD - 4 INT IMO, safe to say we have 2 pretty good QB's. Woodson's numbers stack up pretty good w/ Brohm's.
November 13, 200619 yr So? What does that say? Andre is better you are right....if only there were some more MSU's, Vandy's, and 2 D-1AA's this year. Vandy was Ranked in the Top 20 in pass defense when UK played them. UL has only played one team in the Top 20 (pass defense) and that was Rutgers. UK's played 4.
November 13, 200619 yr How can you compare numbers with a straight face when you have to acknowledge that Brohm's TD numbers are suppressed by a superior running game and consider Brohm's midseason surgery on his throwing hand thumb? You certainly shouldn't bring out stats from the Cincy game, Boucher. This is an excellent example of a case where statistics just won't tell the story. Woodson is a good QB. Top 20 in D-IA, and he'll make a pro roster for at least a year or two, maybe more if he continues to develop. The NFL is the top meritocracy in all of sports. Nowhere else does the cream rise as fast or as reliably. Does anyone anticipate Woodson leaving for the draft this season?
November 13, 200619 yr Vandy was Ranked in the Top 20 in pass defense when UK played them. UL has only played one team in the Top 20 (pass defense) and that was Rutgers. UK's played 4.UK was ranked in the top 20 in pass defense when Louisville played them, too...
November 13, 200619 yr Brian Brohm is one of the top 2-3 QB's in the college ranks...bar none. Dont leave your day job, you wont last a day as a NFL scout. Brohm at this time is not even close. You obviously missed him the other night in the 2nd half of the Ru game. He has not yet lived up to his billing but I still hold out hope he will. His numbers are no better than Woodson's at this point, stats dont lie. Good thing he is playing against the BE rather than SEC, he is to fragile at this point to withstand SEC play every week where as in the BE he only has a game or 2 where he is facing that kind of play.
November 13, 200619 yr Anyone who doesn't think Woodson is as good as Brohm at this point is drinking too much UL Kool-Aid, Woodson has had a huge year, another one like this next year with 8 or 9 wins and he will be a 1-2nd round Draft pick. Brohm has more potential in my opinion, but its potential, he hasn't really done a whole lot to maximize it
November 13, 200619 yr Dont leave your day job, you wont last a day as a NFL scout. Brohm at this time is not even close. You obviously missed him the other night in the 2nd half of the Ru game. He has not yet lived up to his billing but I still hold out hope he will. His numbers are no better than Woodson's at this point, stats dont lie. Good thing he is playing against the BE rather than SEC, he is to fragile at this point to withstand SEC play every week where as in the BE he only has a game or 2 where he is facing that kind of play. Some people have blinders on when it comes to certain things...I, too, hope Brohm ends up living up to his billing, but, IMO, he hasn't yet..I would have thought this conversation silly myself at the 1st of the year, but, I think it's a legit question now...
November 13, 200619 yr Some people have blinders on when it comes to certain things...I, too, hope Brohm ends up living up to his billing, but, IMO, he hasn't yet..I would have thought this conversation silly myself at the 1st of the year, but, I think it's a legit question now... :thumb:
November 13, 200619 yr Woodson will return. He has improved and another year would only help him improve his stock.
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