November 3, 200619 yr The two best teams in the country are undefeated, and playing in 15 days. Both are better than EVERYONE in the SEC/Pac 10/BEast/Big 12/ACC. If there is a one loss team playing for the title IT WILL NOT BE AN SEC TEAM. There, I feel better...I agree with everything in this post.
November 3, 200619 yr Author My argument is that Louisville plays a patsy schedule. What is their strength of schedule? What is Tennessee's strength of schedule? Argument DOES work both ways. So your argument was invalid because you said they didn't beat a Top 25 team. And by your rules, they have...
November 3, 200619 yr The two best teams in the country are undefeated, and playing in 15 days. Both are better than EVERYONE in the SEC/Pac 10/BEast/Big 12/ACC. If there is a one loss team playing for the title IT WILL NOT BE AN SEC TEAM. There, I feel better... You could be right. However, the public will be ripped off once again without the playoff for the national championship. Ohio State and Michigan are not the two best teams in the country. You have your opinion, I have mine. Your blanket statement that both are better than EVERYONE is just not true. I think there's a lot of parity this season. But as far as conferences go - back to our original point - the SEC and Big Ten are the top two. The Big East is somewhere wayyyy behind them.
November 3, 200619 yr The two best teams in the country are undefeated, and playing in 15 days. Both are better than EVERYONE in the SEC/Pac 10/BEast/Big 12/ACC. If there is a one loss team playing for the title IT WILL NOT BE AN SEC TEAM. There, I feel better... :thumb: Well I do agree. But you dont think there is any chance say like your UM team beats OSU by a decent margin at OSU and then say Auburn or either Florida wins the SEC championship by a pretty decent margain that they SEC school still would have no chance at being in the title game? Now I dont think those things would happen, but if it did then there is a chance that a SEC school maybe could slip into the title game...
November 3, 200619 yr I mean no disrespect to anyone on here, but I've GOT to say this: Louisville, West Virginia, and Rutgers would ALL have at least two losses if they played in the S.E.C. No one in the Big East conference has beaten a ranked team!! (Louisville's win over Miami doesn't count, since the Canes aren't currently ranked). The winner of the Big East does NOT deserve a shot at the National Title game. If there were a 16-team playoff, then yes, they should be in that field. But a one loss Florida, Auburn, Tennessee, Texas, or USC team would dismantle Louisville. If the Cards want real national respect (not just being the media darlings of those feel-good, basketball-loving journalists) then they should schedule some tough teams. If Louisville played in the S.E.C. or Big Ten, they wouldn't have to worry about BCS rankings. Their main goal would be making it to a bowl game. Louisville is a good team, don't mistake me, but they are a far cry from what a true National Championship caliber team really is. This truth will come out in the bowl game. Whomever the Cards play - especially if it's in a BCS bowl - will expose them as the pretty-on-paper champs of a powder-puff conference that they truly are. :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:
November 3, 200619 yr You could be right. However, the public will be ripped off once again without the playoff for the national championship. Ohio State and Michigan are not the two best teams in the country. You have your opinion, I have mine. Your blanket statement that both are better than EVERYONE is just not true. I think there's a lot of parity this season. But as far as conferences go - back to our original point - the SEC and Big Ten are the top two. The Big East is somewhere wayyyy behind them. Well UM is the only undefeated team to beat the #2 ranked team on the road. That's a pretty strong arguement.
November 3, 200619 yr You could be right. However, the public will be ripped off once again without the playoff for the national championship. Ohio State and Michigan are not the two best teams in the country. You have your opinion, I have mine. Your blanket statement that both are better than EVERYONE is just not true. I think there's a lot of parity this season. But as far as conferences go - back to our original point - the SEC and Big Ten are the top two. The Big East is somewhere wayyyy behind them. Im just curious who do you think the best two teams are then?
November 3, 200619 yr No one in the Big East conference has beaten a ranked team!! (Louisville's win over Miami doesn't count, since the Canes aren't currently ranked). Other than UT's win over CAL who has the SEC beaten that is ranked? AND Miami was ranked when Louisville beat them, like it or not.
November 3, 200619 yr So your argument was invalid because you said they didn't beat a Top 25 team. And by your rules, they have... The point of my argument was that UT (and several other SEC schools) have played a tougher schedule than U of L. So, let's go ahead and count Miami as being ranked under this logic (UGA ranked 10th, Bama 23rd). That brings the Cards' total of Top 25 opponents to a whopping two. Vols will have played five.
November 3, 200619 yr Just remember this - 9 out of 10 times the SEC champ is going to embarass the Big East champ. Except the time that matters? Got it...I'll remember that.
November 3, 200619 yr Well UM is the only undefeated team to beat the #2 ranked team on the road. That's a pretty strong arguement. Texas is not ranked number two anymore. They nearly lost to Texas Tech last Saturday. Not so strong an argument.
November 3, 200619 yr Im just curious who do you think the best two teams are then? Good question bud. It's really too tough to call right now. My vote would have to go to probably OSU and Auburn/Tennessee.
November 3, 200619 yr Texas is not ranked number two anymore. They nearly lost to Texas Tech last Saturday. Not so strong an argument. I believe he's talking about Michigan beating Notre Dame in South Bend.
November 3, 200619 yr I mean no disrespect to anyone on here, but I've GOT to say this: Louisville, West Virginia, and Rutgers would ALL have at least two losses if they played in the S.E.C. No one in the Big East conference has beaten a ranked team!! (Louisville's win over Miami doesn't count, since the Canes aren't currently ranked). The winner of the Big East does NOT deserve a shot at the National Title game. If there were a 16-team playoff, then yes, they should be in that field. But a one loss Florida, Auburn, Tennessee, Texas, or USC team would dismantle Louisville. If the Cards want real national respect (not just being the media darlings of those feel-good, basketball-loving journalists) then they should schedule some tough teams. If Louisville played in the S.E.C. or Big Ten, they wouldn't have to worry about BCS rankings. Their main goal would be making it to a bowl game. Louisville is a good team, don't mistake me, but they are a far cry from what a true National Championship caliber team really is. This truth will come out in the bowl game. Whomever the Cards play - especially if it's in a BCS bowl - will expose them as the pretty-on-paper champs of a powder-puff conference that they truly are. I agree somewhat with you. I think if you put those 3 Big East schools in the SEC that none of them would go undefeated, but I wouldn't go out and say for sure that they would definitely get 2 losses in the conference because they are both good teams. Also did you not watch last years sugar bowl, everyone was saying how the BigEast was an easy conference and they shouldn't be in a BCS game, but tell me how did they do in that game??? The thing is I am an SEC guy, but I even see that these schools in the Beast are pretty good. You are just being a little to bias in your statements...
November 3, 200619 yr Other than UT's win over CAL who has the SEC beaten that is ranked? AND Miami was ranked when Louisville beat them, like it or not. I don't have enough time to answer that question. The SEC had at one time four teams in the Top Ten. They beat up on each other. That's the problem. That's why it'll take a miracle for an SEC school to ever win the National Championship. Winning the SEC Title is about as prestigious as winning the NC. I never disputed the fact that Miami was ranked AT THE TIME Louisville beat them. The Canes are far from being ranked now.
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