Can you show us some evidence that there are more people legally carrying guns than driving? Or am I misunderstanding you?

 

Well, I'm speaking of concealed carry when I say there are more people out there with guns on them he'd care to know. And since this is a thread about a school shooting, the statistics of you being shot or killed in a mass shooting are considerably lower than the other things I mentioned. Also, I think if you exclude big cities with high crime, the gun numbers drop dramatically.

Again, if we were serious about this issue we would put two or three well trained, armed soldiers/officers in every school until we figured out how to address the issue for the long term.

 

I took this from one of our other threads on the same topic but it is worth repeating:

 

If we want to keep our schools safe it is going to have to be a multi-faceted approach that first and foremost includes boots on the ground (armed men and women in every school in America).

 

Or, we just need to admit that we're okay with an occasional school shooting and will just deal with the aftermath of it.

 

Knowing now what your version of well trained is I am in full agreement with you.

She's asking what's the difference between those countries and ours.

 

I understand that, I'm just curious.

There are way too many factors to peg to any one thing. This is an extremely complex problem.

Gotcha. Okay. Yeah I was thinking SROs weren’t Elite trained members of the armed force. Having Elite trained members of the armed forces as SROs is something that I would love.

 

SROs are suited for the job of SRO, not elite fighting which really isn't the domain of law enforcement so it makes sense that most Police Officers (School Resource Officers are Police Officers first) assigned to SRO positions don't have the proper resume for lone wolf kill missions.

 

An active shooter is something you need a SWAT Team or SEAL Team to address, not one man or woman with a sidearm.

 

Since it is impossible to get a SWAT Team immediately to the scene of an active shooter that means we need to have properly trained and skilled Officers on site if we are serious about this issue.

I believe a big part of the problem is a gun culture that demands unfettered access to any and all guns without mandatory checks on safety. Granted, that culture is fueled by "non-profits" that have a vested interest in keeping the status quo. They have convinced people that ANY checks on safety or limits on gun types will result in the confiscation of all guns. The result is large numbers of people that do not respect guns. "It's my right to own a gun, 'nuff said. Pry it out of my cold, dead hands."

 

That makes pro-gun, responsible owners like me pretty angry.

 

I disagree. These guns have been around a lot longer than this problem. The culture has been around as long. We never used to see this stuff happening. This current generation has some major issues compared to last generations. Speaking only of the problem ones.

I thought the military style rifles were the problem by the way. Isn't that what we've heard on here and on social media? I just keep seeing evidence it's the people. I just don't know what the answer is to change it.

I thought the military style rifles were the problem by the way. Isn't that what we've heard on here and on social media? I just keep seeing evidence it's the people. I just don't know what the answer is to change it.

 

That has already been covered in this thread, to repeat:

 

Considering the weapons used this shooting shows us the Government either has to confiscate all guns from all people or come up with other solutions that have nothing to do with gun control.

I disagree. These guns have been around a lot longer than this problem. The culture has been around as long. We never used to see this stuff happening. This current generation has some major issues compared to last generations. Speaking only of the problem ones.

 

We are seeing a huge spike because kids have given disturbed kids an action to model.

 

School shootings have happened since we have been conducting this American Experiment. The recent shootings have been worse largely due to the weapons used.

Well, I'm speaking of concealed carry when I say there are more people out there with guns on them he'd care to know. And since this is a thread about a school shooting, the statistics of you being shot or killed in a mass shooting are considerably lower than the other things I mentioned. Also, I think if you exclude big cities with high crime, the gun numbers drop dramatically.

 

There are more people driving cars everyday and in general than there are people carrying or even owning guns, so of course you’d be more likely to be hit by a drunk driver. I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make there.

We are seeing a huge spike because kids have given disturbed kids an action to model.

 

School shootings have happened since we have been conducting this American Experiment. The recent shootings have been worse largely due to the weapons used.

 

Not like today is my point. It was pretty much unheard of when I was younger.

 

Where there no disturbed kids in the past? Why so many now?

Not like today is my point. It was pretty much unheard of when I was younger.

 

Where there no disturbed kids in the past? Why so many now?

 

Of course there was. Big part of it IMO is the ease of access.

Of course there was. Big part of it IMO is the ease of access.

 

Guns were much easier to get when I was younger than they are today. Back then you just went in the local hardware store and bought one without any background check.

Guns were much easier to get when I was younger than they are today. Back then you just went in the local hardware store and bought one without any background check.

 

And now kids just walk into their parents closest and grab one....

And now kids just walk into their parents closest and grab one....

 

Well, that's no different either...parents had guns back in the old days of the 60s and 70s too.

 

Dad had a wooden gun case, my grandpa kept his in the corner of his bedroom, best friends dad had a rack on the wall...every where I went I could see guns when I was a kid.

I disagree. These guns have been around a lot longer than this problem. The culture has been around as long. We never used to see this stuff happening. This current generation has some major issues compared to last generations. Speaking only of the problem ones.

No, this gun culture has not been around "a lot longer." Also, I don't believe that the Las Vegas shooter was of "this generation." Even so, this generation exists around the world. Why is it just a problem causing gun violence in the US?