As for the bolded, where did you find that information? I don't believe it's accurate for either country personally. How are they measuring what is urban and what is not? Ever been out west in the US, it's not very urban at all.

 

 

There's also not as much population out west which is accounted for using "per capita."

 

Regarding density German is about 7 times more dense than the US. 226 people per km vs 32 per km.

 

Population density - Country Comparison

There is a lot of violent crime in our country, period. We also have more drug use/crime than those countries. The vast majority of gun violence comes from our 10 largest cities...take those out and the gun homicides in the US drop dramatically.

 

That's why it's better to look at a per capita rate than a gross number rate.

I wish I knew what the true problem was.

 

When you are self proclaimed #1 in the world, people try to take you out. Internally and extenternaly. Unfortunately our current structure as a society allows for these attempts to be very easy, until there is change, it will continue.

When you are self proclaimed #1 in the world, people try to take you out. Internally and extenternaly. Unfortunately our current structure as a society allows for these attempts to be very easy, until there is change, it will continue.

 

One of the problems is that way too many of our own are taking us out.

One of the problems is that way too many of our own are taking us out.

 

Only because we allow them too. But also dont miss the point that many of theses are not "out own" either.

Berlin's population density is 3,994 per km.

 

NYC's population density is 2,054.

LA is 2702.

Chicago is 1700.

 

It's not the distribution of the population.

 

So what is it?

https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/urban-population-percent-of-total-wb-data.html

 

Urban population (% of total) | Data

 

Germany Urban population, 196-217 - knoema.com

 

Germany Population (217, 218) - Worldometers

 

First four sites that popped up on a Google search.

 

If 200+ people within a kilometer is urban then Ashland with a density of around 2,000 people per mile must be a metropolis. Like I mentioned earlier, different places are going to have different criteria for what is considered "urban."

No doubt a huge factor - I wholeheartedly agree. But like it or not, those cities are part of the U.S.

 

True. But as to why is for another thread that won't any longer be tolerated on this site.

Have we got a motive and the way the shooter obtained his weapons? I've been searching the net with no luck.

Not really. Urban areas in the US are where most of gun related (or any weapon for that matter) deaths occur. The USA has a lot more urban area's than Germany.

 

About 75% of Germany is considered urban. About 80% of the US is considered urban.

 

Germany is what, 1/8 the size of the US and has more cities with 1 million people. That's a very urbanized country. The US resembles Europe in no way, shape or form in terms of the urban-rural divide.

 

The US has "cities" of 1,200 people that are 15 miles from the next one like it. Germany's towns of that size are usually 2-3 miles apart.

Berlin's population density is 3,994 per km.

 

NYC's population density is 2,054.

LA is 2702.

Chicago is 1700.

 

It's not the distribution of the population.

 

So what is it?

 

How about we cut to the chase and you tell us? You keep hinting you know and we don't. So, out with it. What is it in your opinion? Although I think I already know what you are trying to insinuate.

That still doesn't mean anything especially if you consider that the urban areas in the USA are likely more densely populated. I don't know what goes into "considered urban" in Germany consists of either, where did you come up with that info?

 

Like I mentioned before there are so many factors that can go into statistics from different countries that it's not a good way to compare things. It's kinda like comparing similar scores of ball games in sports, it's not always an accurate way to judge the end result when trying to predict a winner for the next game.

 

What Muskie is saying is that 75% of the German population live in urban areas and 80% of the US population live in urban areas. 75% of the area of Germany is not made up of urban areas.

More people?

The US does have more people than Japan, 323 million compared to 130 million, but the statistics are still interesting. I read one article that in one of the recent years Japan had 6 murders by gun and the US had 17,000.

How about we cut to the chase and you tell us? You keep hinting you know and we don't. So, out with it. What is it in your opinion? Although I think I already know what you are trying to insinuate.

 

If I insinuated anything I did it without knowing it.

 

I'm truly asking. We're very similar to Germany yet we kill at a much higher rate. Doesn't it seem wise to ask why?

 

A lot of people say it's not stricter gun laws because criminals will always get guns. Isn't that true in Germany as well? One guy said it was something to do with Christianity yet the US is more Christian than Germany.

 

Two advanced countries with a much different rate of gun deaths.

What Muskie is saying is that 75% of the German population live in urban areas and 80% of the US population live in urban areas. 75% of the area of Germany is not made up of urban areas.

 

Yet different countries have different ideals of what is considered an urban area. What classifies an area as urban? Is there a criteria that every country in the world abides by, or is it just a made up number for individual countries?