We are going to have to agree to disagree on that one because I know a lot of kids who played for him last year that did not like him or what he was doing at all.

Coaching is not the problem at Scott, Casey Fisk does a great job and is perfect for the position. This is only his second year you have to give him some time.

 

 

Casey Fisk is way too young and inexperienced to be able to handle the scott situation.

Casey Fisk is way too young and inexperienced to be able to handle the scott situation.

 

 

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Casey Fisk is way too young and inexperienced to be able to handle the scott situation.

:madman: Totally disagree. Coach Fisk inherited a really bad situation.

Agree.

Playing for Scott and being around Casey he knows D line and that's about it. It's about time to right the ship in Taylor Mill, and I don't think Casey is the man for the job. It's just going to be hard for the Eagles to even find someone to want to try to fix things in Taylor Mill. From what I had heard it was either the guy from Ludlow or Casey to choose from. The Ludlow guy left after a week and they were stuck with the second choice.

Whether or not Fisk is right (personally I'd say no) for the job, it doesn't matter. That is who they got and that is probably who they are stuck with because their isn't a long waiting list of candidates who want the job. I don't if anyone has the ability to come in and turn this program around, it is going to take years of work to create a powerhouse, which is why they will have a decent team here and there followed by a few down years.

We are going to have to agree to disagree on that one because I know a lot of kids who played for him last year that did not like him or what he was doing at all.

You can agree or disagree all you want Casey is the right man for the position. As for the comment about casey just knowing the D-line he is familiar with that postion then any other but is very smart at the whole defence so they dont know what they are talking about. As for the players that played last year it dont really matter what they think of him they didnt win so they will say whatever, most of the kids said they hated R.J. Riegler but we all know he is a real good coach so doesn't matter what they say. Coaching Scott is not as easy as everyone thinks he loves that school and the team and all the players on the team every head coach has thier good points about them and thier bad points and Casey is no diffrent. He does good things and he does bad things but over all a real good head coach. Scott needs a head coach that not only loves the team and school but will do anything they can for the players and they got that man in Casey Fisk so forget about the head coaching problem because THERE ISN'T ONE.:mad:

A lot of interesting thoughts.

The job is a challenge.

It's probably too early to dump on Fisk at this moment. He is youthful and will make some mistakes, but he may grow.

Unfortunately, it is not an attractive position.

Now with them sliding to 5A, maybe they can schedule 6 winnable, competitive games before hitting the districts.

I understand they will not be playing SK next year non-conference, which is interesting, and may be lending credence to scheduling softer.

I think open enrollment probably does play the biggest part.

I didn't know SK and Scott weren't playing next year, very interesting. I agree with LeeCorso (very seldom agree with the real Lee) about the drop in class. More OOD games means they can be a little more flexible with scheduling. Right now they are 8th in a district of 8, soften the schedule a bit, win some games, that may draw in some kids on the "outside" of the program. Winning does wonders for a program, not long ago SK was in the same situation, now they aren't world beaters by any means but they seem to be heading in the right direction, I would love to see the Eagles turn things around, been on the losing side of things and it stinks, it's going to take time but it can happen, I think the drop in class can only help even though HHS and CCH and Dixie will be a lock for playoff births in the new district.

Playing for Scott and being around Casey he knows D line and that's about it. It's about time to right the ship in Taylor Mill, and I don't think Casey is the man for the job. It's just going to be hard for the Eagles to even find someone to want to try to fix things in Taylor Mill. From what I had heard it was either the guy from Ludlow or Casey to choose from. The Ludlow guy left after a week and they were stuck with the second choice.

:fight: Totally disagree (respectfully)... Please tell us who is the right choice for the job and what they would do to fix things.

Perceptions are everything with prospective student/athletes, and in particular young potential players - add in an open enrollment invitation to pick and choose where to play your career and a rapidly improving Holy Cross option at the bottom of the hill and you are inviting a "poor get poorer" scenerio which seems to be effectively taking its toll at Scott.

 

Ask all of those potential Scott Eagles football players who have gone to other Kenton County Schools or choose to walk the halls and not play on the Scott football team or have opted to play at Holy Cross why they didn't go to Scott or don't play on the team and the answer I think you will hear is - "They Suck!!!"

 

Not very flattering but a way of life - the desire to play for a winner.

Scott is not the only program that has had to overcome this - Campbell County is a prime example and closer to home - Simon Kenton. Until Campbell County hired John Schlarman and Troy Styer this program suffered from the same perception and the better athletes chose either not to play at all or to go elsewhere.

 

Schlarman and Styer are young, vibrant, and became visible. They didn't wait for the kids to come to them - they went to the kids. They beat the bushes within their own school, got involved with the Red Devils, started an in-house junior high flag football program, created a vision and let the kids feel valued and got them into sharing the dream. They developed some pride in the football program and in three years the program has gone from nothing to something. Something similar has to happen at Scott.

 

If the Scott football team is losing kids from their feeder school in the back yard - shame on them! If I were the football coach at Scott, I'd be eating my lunch everyday in the Woodland cafeteria, shaking some hands and "recruiting" my own kids.

 

I'm no longer familiar with the NKYFL as I once was, but I think that Dixie has the VFW Raiders and the Bengal Tigers that probably feed them. Does Taylor Mill still have a team?? If so the Scott coaching staff probably needs to move in with those kids, make them feel important and make it a personal thing about coming to play for them. Paint the picture - share the dream. Preach the "what we can do together" gospel and get them back to being proud to be associated with the Scott program again.

 

Since its been done in other sports there, it is inconceiveable that it can't be done in football. There is nothing at all wrong with the popularity of the sport - the problem is with the popularity of the sport at Scott.

 

 

The key to all of your post, and I agree with it 100%, is to hire a successful coach who wants a challenge and can attract the players to come out for the team. Don't say a successful coach would never go there: Murphy went to Newport when he left Highlands in the early 70's and actually turned the program around for a while. Schlarman recently went to Campbell County and Newport, both down programs at the time. I'm sure with a little thought, a lot more examples could be posted.

 

Has any one hired Yeagle yet? If not, Scott should do so. I don't know who the Scott coach is now, and he may be the nicest guy in the world, but I'd hire Yeagle tomorrow if he'd come. Scott is kind of like Campbell Co to me: diamonds in the rough. Scott will need a lot more cutting and polishing because of the open enrollment issue, but I think Yeagle could get it done.

I was at the NKYFL Raider game yesterday and it was Senior Day. At halftime, they introduced the departing seniors and read their bio's. Not one football player said they would go Scott. It was all Dixie, Cov Cath, and a few Beechwoods.

You can love a program all you want, that doesn't make you the right man for the job. He is too young and inexperienced at this time to get this program out of the huge hole it is in. Who knows, maybe in some time he will gain experience and get some players and maybe he will turn things around. I just feel that if you stick with him it is going to be a long time before he is able to do this.

The key to all of your post, and I agree with it 100%, is to hire a successful coach who wants a challenge and can attract the players to come out for the team. Don't say a successful coach would never go there: Murphy went to Newport when he left Highlands in the early 70's and actually turned the program around for a while. Schlarman recently went to Campbell County and Newport, both down programs at the time. I'm sure with a little thought, a lot more examples could be posted.

 

Has any one hired Yeagle yet? If not, Scott should do so. I don't know who the Scott coach is now, and he may be the nicest guy in the world, but I'd hire Yeagle tomorrow if he'd come. Scott is kind of like Campbell Co to me: diamonds in the rough. Scott will need a lot more cutting and polishing because of the open enrollment issue, but I think Yeagle could get it done.

I have to disagree with this comparison. Campbell Co. was down before Schlarman went there, but they had 2 things going for them that Scott has NEVER had. First, they had actually had some form of success in the past, and even at times had competed with the BEST. Second, the CC team that Schlarman inherited had taken their lumps the previous year, but they were still competitive in most games they played. I really, really don't think the coach is the problem out at Scott. Would a big name like Yeagle help the program? Sure. Will it ever happen? Absolutely not. And herein lies the problem. How do you get a "good" coach to come to a school that has won less than 20% of their games in the last 25 years? What are your selling points? I think the only way you'll get a "good" coach is to take a chance on an unproven, untested young coach(much like RJ Reigler or Casey Fisk).

 

IMO, open enrollment, coaching, etc. all play a part in what has been a history of losing for Scott. None of them individually are solely responsible for Scott losing, but put them all together and you have a recipe for disaster. The bottom line though is that there just isn't a commitment at the top to winning football games. Until that happens, as they say, "crap runs downhill".