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What does Scott need to do to turn things around?

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Alluded to this in the Scott/Holmes game thread.

In my opinion, I think the administration at Scott needs to do something to change the culture. I don't think there is any support there for these kids. It looks like their numbers are dropping.

Is it the open enrollment?

Is it the feeder programs?

We have never been that good with the excepton of a year or two here and there.

After watching tonight, it was pretty embarrassing and something needs to be done.

What are some your guys thoughts?

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I don't think all the athletes in the school actually come out to play. They figure we go to Scott why waist our time trying. IMO

This thread seems to pop up from time to time...

I don't think all the athletes in the school actually come out to play. They figure we go to Scott why waist our time trying. IMO

 

I'm guessing if that's their frame of mind, then they aren't athletes anyway. At some point, an "athlete" has to have some pride and mental toughness. I'd guess the people you are referrring to have neither.

I'm guessing if that's their frame of mind, then they aren't athletes anyway. At some point, an "athlete" has to have some pride and mental toughness. I'd guess the people you are referrring to have neither.

Spoken like someone far removed from choices at 14 or 15 years old...

Spoken like someone far removed from choices at 14 or 15 years old...

 

Spoken like someone who has no clue about me.

Spoken like someone who has no clue about me.

Why are there other programs that do very well at Scott? Swimming and CC are top notch. Track, Soccer, Baseball and Basketball have all had their runs. From talking to MANY that have walked those halls, football just isn't the thing to do. How do you change that mentality? They've had a few solid teams over time, but once the key group graduates, that's it. I've talked to parents, players, former players, alumni, coaches and so on. It's always the same reply. The kids as a whole are just not interested in football. How do you change that???

Alluded to this in the Scott/Holmes game thread.

In my opinion, I think the administration at Scott needs to do something to change the culture. I don't think there is any support there for these kids. It looks like their numbers are dropping.

Is it the open enrollment?

Is it the feeder programs?

We have never been that good with the excepton of a year or two here and there.

After watching tonight, it was pretty embarrassing and something needs to be done.

What are some your guys thoughts?

 

I can't speak of the feeder program, because I have no clue if it's good, bad, or non-exisitent.

 

In the open enrollment scenerio, I'd think keeping/getting athletic kids at Scott has to be difficult to say the least. I'm not saying it's the reason they can't win, but from the outside it looks like this:

 

Dixie just got a brand new stadium, complete with field turf. Their gym was also remolded, as was the weight room. What did Scott get? Not a knock on Dixie, but it looks like Kenton County may have influenced athletes in an open enrollment scenerio.

Why are there other programs that do very well at Scott? Swimming and CC are top notch. Track, Soccer, Baseball and Basketball have all had their runs. From talking to MANY that have walked those halls, football just isn't the thing to do. How do you change that mentality? They've had a few solid teams over time, but once the key group graduates, that's it. I've talked to parents, players, former players, alumni, coaches and so on. It's always the same reply. The kids as a whole are just not interested in football. How do you change that???

 

My initial response was to what I've heard over and over, that Scott has the athletes, they just don't play. I think that's a cop out by potential athletes, that haven't enough disicpline to join a high school team.

My initial response was to what I've heard over and over, that Scott has the athletes, they just don't play. I think that's a cop out by potential athletes, that haven't enough disicpline to join a high school team.

I would guess that is from what I mentioned in the post you quoted. Scott is not a pathetic school in the overall scheme of athletics. They do a lot well. It's just not in football. In light of that, it's easy to see why people close to the program claim that the talent is there. The football mentality from top to bottom is bad, and in turn the team has problems. Throw in a district with Highlands and Cov Cath, or one with Boone and Dixie, and the chance to change the culture is tough. And on your upgrade issue, will you have problems when the older Boone and Conner are upgraded before Ryle???

I would guess that is from what I mentioned in the post you quoted. Scott is not a pathetic school in the overall scheme of athletics. They do a lot well. It's just not in football. In light of that, it's easy to see why people close to the program claim that the talent is there. The football mentality from top to bottom is bad, and in turn the team has problems. Throw in a district with Highlands and Cov Cath, or one with Boone and Dixie, and the chance to change the culture is tough. And on your upgrade issue, will you have problems when the older Boone and Conner are upgraded before Ryle???

 

Scott is better in other sports than football. That being said, the whole "athletes walking the halls." part of the equation is stupid. If they wanted to play, they would, if a coach has to chase them down, how much will he really be able to rely on the kid anyway?

 

As for the "upgrade" deal, Boone County doesn't have open enrollment, so the point is moot. But, Boone County has also said no once to field turf because they knew it wasn't fair to the other two schools:D .

As for the "upgrade" deal, Boone County doesn't have open enrollment, so the point is moot. But, Boone County has also said no once to field turf because they knew it wasn't fair to the other two schools:D .

The Boone Board said no because the funds "donated" didn't cover the full cost. It's been made clear on here that if Shaun paid the full ammount, they were fine with turf in Florence. Boone is getting a new gym, right? How about Conner or Ryle? As I said, I've talked to many in the know at Scott over the years, and they all say football is a joke among students at an early age. How do you change that? And then how do you do it with Cov Cath/Highlands/Boone/Dixie/Holmes/SK/Conner and so on in the way???

The Boone Board said no because the funds "donated" didn't cover the full cost. It's been made clear on here that if Shaun paid the full ammount, they were fine with turf in Florence. Boone is getting a new gym, right? How about Conner or Ryle? As I said, I've talked to many in the know at Scott over the years, and they all say football is a joke among students at an early age. How do you change that? And then how do you do it with Cov Cath/Highlands/Boone/Dixie/Holmes/SK/Conner and so on in the way???

 

While you were at it you should have added that Conner and Boone both got practice gyms to equal Ryles. Boones main gym has been around forever, it needs renovations, to make it comperable to the gyms the other schools in the district have.

 

We're getting more and more off the thread though.

While you were at it you should have added that Conner and Boone both got practice gyms to equal Ryles. Boones main gym has been around forever, it needs renovations, to make it comperable to the gyms the other schools in the district have.

 

We're getting more and more off the thread though.

I went back to Scott at the end. How can you change the mentality of an entire community???

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