I have to disagree with this comparison. Campbell Co. was down before Schlarman went there, but they had 2 things going for them that Scott has NEVER had. First, they had actually had some form of success in the past, and even at times had competed with the BEST. Second, the CC team that Schlarman inherited had taken their lumps the previous year, but they were still competitive in most games they played. I really, really don't think the coach is the problem out at Scott. Would a big name like Yeagle help the program? Sure. Will it ever happen? Absolutely not. And herein lies the problem. How do you get a "good" coach to come to a school that has won less than 20% of their games in the last 25 years? What are your selling points? I think the only way you'll get a "good" coach is to take a chance on an unproven, untested young coach(much like RJ Reigler or Casey Fisk).

 

IMO, open enrollment, coaching, etc. all play a part in what has been a history of losing for Scott. None of them individually are solely responsible for Scott losing, but put them all together and you have a recipe for disaster. The bottom line though is that there just isn't a commitment at the top to winning football games. Until that happens, as they say, "crap runs downhill".

:thumb: I think you are the closest to correct so far...

I have to disagree with this comparison. Campbell Co. was down before Schlarman went there, but they had 2 things going for them that Scott has NEVER had. First, they had actually had some form of success in the past, and even at times had competed with the BEST. Second, the CC team that Schlarman inherited had taken their lumps the previous year, but they were still competitive in most games they played. I really, really don't think the coach is the problem out at Scott. Would a big name like Yeagle help the program? Sure. Will it ever happen? Absolutely not. And herein lies the problem. How do you get a "good" coach to come to a school that has won less than 20% of their games in the last 25 years? What are your selling points? I think the only way you'll get a "good" coach is to take a chance on an unproven, untested young coach(much like RJ Reigler or Casey Fisk).

 

IMO, open enrollment, coaching, etc. all play a part in what has been a history of losing for Scott. None of them individually are solely responsible for Scott losing, but put them all together and you have a recipe for disaster. The bottom line though is that there just isn't a commitment at the top to winning football games. Until that happens, as they say, "crap runs downhill".

 

Good post with good points.

I still can't figure it out. It seems like you'd find some kids that would want to come and play for a school like Scott. Would you want to be platooned on a big school, or get a chance for some serious playing time? Me personally, I'd like the opportunity to play all the time...

I still can't figure it out. It seems like you'd find some kids that would want to come and play for a school like Scott. Would you want to be platooned on a big school, or get a chance for some serious playing time? Me personally, I'd like the opportunity to play all the time...

When you get the players you are talking about, it's quite often you get a program with the problems you see in Taylor Mill...

When you get the players you are talking about, it's quite often you get a program with the problems you see in Taylor Mill...

 

Agree with this, it also depends on if you want to be a part of a big and successful program or just get in the game and have fun even if you are getting killed on the scoreboard.

I have to disagree with this comparison. Campbell Co. was down before Schlarman went there, but they had 2 things going for them that Scott has NEVER had. First, they had actually had some form of success in the past, and even at times had competed with the BEST. Second, the CC team that Schlarman inherited had taken their lumps the previous year, but they were still competitive in most games they played. I really, really don't think the coach is the problem out at Scott. Would a big name like Yeagle help the program? Sure. Will it ever happen? Absolutely not. And herein lies the problem. How do you get a "good" coach to come to a school that has won less than 20% of their games in the last 25 years? What are your selling points? I think the only way you'll get a "good" coach is to take a chance on an unproven, untested young coach(much like RJ Reigler or Casey Fisk).

 

IMO, open enrollment, coaching, etc. all play a part in what has been a history of losing for Scott. None of them individually are solely responsible for Scott losing, but put them all together and you have a recipe for disaster. The bottom line though is that there just isn't a commitment at the top to winning football games. Until that happens, as they say, "crap runs downhill".

 

 

 

Admittedly CC and Scott aren't exactly the same, but CC was still a down program that a good coach saw some potential in and took a chance. There are a lot of positives about Scott and similar potential. As pointed out by other posters, the school does have athletes in it, as they are competitive in other sports. Nice affluent neighborhoods in the district. Growing area. Nice facilities.

 

So your saying that you think Scott approached Yeagle and he turned them down? Be interesting to find out if they did. If they did not approach him, it probably sheds some light on why football has been so bad at Scott for so long. Anyone know if they did approach him?

 

So your saying that you think Scott approached Yeagle and he turned them down? Be interesting to find out if they did. If they did not approach him, it probably sheds some light on why football has been so bad at Scott for so long. Anyone know if they did approach him?

 

I dont think they did but I could be wrong. I think they just went with the ones that applied for it. Again not 100% sure but about 80%.

I dont think they did but I could be wrong. I think they just went with the ones that applied for it. Again not 100% sure but about 80%.

 

If they didn't, then that would be a shame. I think the school administration owes it to the kids to go out and try to induce the best coach to come to their school. Sitting back and hope that such coach will apply often doesn't get it done. People who coach are like other people doing other jobs in that they like to be stroked. Maybe Yeagle would have said no anyway, but you don't know until you ask. I'd love to see Scott turn it around and believe a stellar coach like Yeagle could get it done; I truly do. He'd have those kids believing that they could beat the Bengals in short order and I believe you'd see more and more of the kids playing youth football going to Scott than Dixie.

:fight: Totally disagree (respectfully)... Please tell us who is the right choice for the job and what they would do to fix things.

I've talked to coaches who've coached with Casey at Scott and they laugh at the situation. If you go to a practice you see that it's not Casey running the show it's his assistant coaches doing all the work.

Scott needs a coach who can weed out all the players that really don't want to be there and keep the ones who are dedicated and bring in players that want to be dedicated. I wasn't the biggest fan of coach Riegler but he WAS headed in the right direction for the most part. Scott needs a coach who has been around a winner. Riegler played in a State Championship, Casey never did. Casey went to college for cheerleading he knows cheerleading. Scott needs someone who knows football and nothing but football. [No knock on Casey about cheering. Cheerleading is a very respectable "sport" (another debate) in Kentucky]

Well they hired Riegler and he quit.

I'm sure that if Coach Yeagle would have wanted the job when it was open it would have been his. I think most of the coaches in the area know what a difficult job it would be to turn Scott around and would avoid the job like the plague. Ask the coach at Ludlow who after second thought turned the job down.

I've talked to coaches who've coached with Casey at Scott and they laugh at the situation. If you go to a practice you see that it's not Casey running the show it's his assistant coaches doing all the work.

Scott needs a coach who can weed out all the players that really don't want to be there and keep the ones who are dedicated and bring in players that want to be dedicated. I wasn't the biggest fan of coach Riegler but he WAS headed in the right direction for the most part. Scott needs a coach who has been around a winner. Riegler played in a State Championship, Casey never did. Casey went to college for cheerleading he knows cheerleading. Scott needs someone who knows football and nothing but football. [No knock on Casey about cheering. Cheerleading is a very respectable "sport" (another debate) in Kentucky]

Were did Riegler play his high school ball? And to answer an earlier question, Last time I saw him, which was earlier this summer, he was working in his family business, not in coaching.:eek:

I've talked to coaches who've coached with Casey at Scott and they laugh at the situation. If you go to a practice you see that it's not Casey running the show it's his assistant coaches doing all the work.

Scott needs a coach who can weed out all the players that really don't want to be there and keep the ones who are dedicated and bring in players that want to be dedicated. I wasn't the biggest fan of coach Riegler but he WAS headed in the right direction for the most part. Scott needs a coach who has been around a winner. Riegler played in a State Championship, Casey never did. Casey went to college for cheerleading he knows cheerleading. Scott needs someone who knows football and nothing but football. [No knock on Casey about cheering. Cheerleading is a very respectable "sport" (another debate) in Kentucky]

 

It sounds like you have a personal ax to grind with Coach Fisk...

 

Nothing against Coach Riegler, but he won 6 regular season games in 4 years before quitting the program. If your going to give him 4 years and say that he was heading in the right direction, then I think you need to give Coach Fisk some slack...

 

Riegler's departure came late and Fisk wasn't hired until a few weeks before spring practice in 2005. He has had to scramble to fill his staff and try to build this team up...

When you get the players you are talking about, it's quite often you get a program with the problems you see in Taylor Mill...

I agree with this for the most part, however, it seems like the opportunity to play full time would be a partial draw. I know honestly, I'd rather play on a team like Scott (or I could name a few others) where I could be a two or three year starter than go to a large established winning and be second and third string most of my time.

We can debate this until we are blue in the face but the fact is that there isn't a quick fix or even one major thing that needs to be done that can turn this program around. They need a dedicated coach who surrounds himself with quality assistants, because I am a firm believer in the theory that you are only as good as the people you surround yourself with. Also they need to get the feeder programs in order, and finally they need to get the athletes that the school has to come out and play. There is more that can be done but these are a few of the essentials.