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The firing of FBI Director James Comey - What is each side saying?

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What is different about me is I was right then and I am right now, Comey should have been fired then.

 

And you watch how things roll out, there will be a lot more people claiming he should have been fired last year now that it is safe to go there.

 

That's a guarantee. Especially now that it is 24 hours later and folks have had time to absorb and dissect the information at hand to form an opinion. I expect to hear plenty saying he should have been fired last year with the occasional "once again, Trump did what Obama was scared to do" zinger thrown in as well.

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Inside Trump’s anger and impatience — and his sudden decision to fire Comey - The Washington Post

 

Quite a few parts of this article seem to contradict a fair amount of the pro-fire Comey portion of the original post. Most notably that Deputy Director everyone is so high on reportedly threatening to resign when the WH attempted to use his recommendation as the impetus for the firing.

Inside Trump’s anger and impatience — and his sudden decision to fire Comey - The Washington Post

 

Quite a few parts of this article seem to contradict a fair amount of the pro-fire Comey portion of the original post. Most notably that Deputy Director everyone is so high on reportedly threatening to resign when the WH attempted to use his recommendation as the impetus for the firing.

 

Interesting article. Looks like the leaks will continue and could possibly get worse. Craziness about the Deputy Director if it is true.

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Inside Trump’s anger and impatience — and his sudden decision to fire Comey - The Washington Post

 

Quite a few parts of this article seem to contradict a fair amount of the pro-fire Comey portion of the original post. Most notably that Deputy Director everyone is so high on reportedly threatening to resign when the WH attempted to use his recommendation as the impetus for the firing.

 

That was a left leaning perspective. I assume the Washington Post is way left? With all that said, it was a very interesting read and I am not being dismissive.

 

I want to know more about Deputy Director Rosenstein allegedly wanting to resign over all of this. The press needs to drill that question until they get answers.

 

And in general terms, wow there are a lot of leaks at the top of our government. That has to change.

That was a left leaning perspective. I assume the Washington Post is way left? With all that said, it was a very interesting read and I am not being dismissive.

 

I want to know more about Deputy Director Rosenstein allegedly wanting to resign over all of this. The press needs to drill that question until they get answers.

 

And in general terms, wow there are a lot of leaks at the top of our government. That has to change.

 

I mean the Washington Post is the Washington Post. It's probably the best source of reporting on national politics. I'm sure your average conservative would consider it left leaning similar to the New York Times or like your average liberal would look at the Wall Street Journal as right leaning. Either way, they're all major national newspapers.

 

Regardless, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt to the three publications listed above and all each of them are reporting is essentially the opposite of what many stated in the previous thread and paint the Trump White House as a circus. At a certain point, reports are reality, not just a left or right thing.

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I mean the Washington Post is the Washington Post. It's probably the best source of reporting on national politics. I'm sure your average conservative would consider it left leaning similar to the New York Times or like your average liberal would look at the Wall Street Journal as right leaning. Either way, they're all major national newspapers.

 

Regardless, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt to the three publications listed above and all each of them are reporting is essentially the opposite of what many stated in the previous thread and paint the Trump White House as a circus. At a certain point, reports are reality, not just a left or right thing.

 

It is a huge transition but I have a hard time buying "circus."

Wow man, just wow.

 

Like you said, you don't trust President Trump and your response definitely screams it.

 

Well I am not literally screaming. Not going to be able to change how I feel about it. Now the POTUS has the authority to do what he did. He should be able to appoint whom he wants. I am not saying he has done anything illegal in this instance. I could care less about Comey, it goes with the job. He has messed in things he shouldn't have since July.

 

That still doesn't mean I have to like it. Live with it, yes, like it and trust the POTUS, no.

When someone needs to be fired the correct time to do it is immediately.

 

And I actually think the timing looks right between Comey's latest disaster in front of Congress and with the new Deputy Director of the Justice Department passing judgment.

 

Furthermore, it is my opinion that anyone that complains about timing (and I am not saying you are Deuce) is just looking for a reason to complain because they don't have any real reason that they are able to articulate.

 

Cool.

 

It is my opinion that anyone that can't at least acknowledge, whether they believe it's true or not, how the timing might look a little shady either has their head in the sand or will never find any fault in anything this administration does.

Bill Clinton fired the FBI Director William Sessions on July 19, 1993

Vincent Foster was found dead on July 20, 1993.

 

Just saying.

So the fireable offense by Comey was ....

 

1. Deciding the email case against Clinton did not need to be sent to the justice department.

 

2. Announcing the FBI was looking into more Clinton emails a week before the election.

 

3. Announcing two days before the election that the new Clinton emails were a big nothing.

 

4. Failing to announce last summer the FBI was investigating the Trump campaign's ties to Russians.

 

5. Failing to drop the Russian investigation.

 

6. Something else I didn't list.

 

Which of those should get the head of the FBI fired?

Bill Clinton fired the FBI Director William Sessions on July 19, 1993

Vincent Foster was found dead on July 20, 1993.

 

Just saying.

 

William Sessions was fired because he was accused of serious misuse of government funds for his personal benefit.

 

Just before Bill Clinton was inaugurated as the 42nd President of the United States on January 20, 1993, allegations of ethical improprieties were made against Sessions. A report by outgoing Attorney General William P. Barr presented to the Justice Department that month by the Office of Professional Responsibility included criticisms that he had used an FBI plane to travel to visit his daughter on several occasions, and had a security system installed in his home at government expense.[3] Janet Reno, the 78th Attorney General of the United States, announced that Sessions had exhibited "serious deficiencies in judgment."[4]

 

Although Sessions denied that he had acted improperly, he was pressured to resign in early July, with some suggesting that President Clinton was giving Sessions the chance to step down in a dignified manner. Sessions refused, saying that he had done nothing wrong, and insisted on staying in office until his successor was confirmed. As a result, President Clinton dismissed Sessions on July 19, 1993. Sessions was five and a half years into a ten-year term as FBI director; however, the holder of this post serves at the pleasure of the President.

 

William S. Sessions - Wikipedia

 

The way you presented it makes sense but the truth is deeper than dates.

 

Travelgate, as it was called, was the first Clinton scandal and it was very early in his first year. The reason given for the firings was misuse of funds for personal benefit. (Kind of like Sessions was accused of)

 

Here's a complete history of the event.

 

White House travel office controversy - Wikipedia

 

The White House stated the firings were done because financial improprieties in the Travel Office operation during previous administrations had been revealed by an FBI investigation. Critics contended the firings were done to allow friends of President Bill Clinton and First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton to take over the travel business and that the involvement of the FBI was unwarranted. Heavy media attention forced the White House to reinstate most of the employees in other jobs and remove the Clinton associates from the travel role.

 

Further investigations by the FBI and the Department of Justice, the White House itself, the General Accounting Office, the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee, and the Whitewater Independent Counsel all took place over the subsequent years. Travel Office Director Billy Dale was charged with embezzlement but found not guilty in 1995. In 1998, Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr exonerated Bill Clinton of any involvement in the matter.

So the fireable offense by Comey was ....

 

1. Deciding the email case against Clinton did not need to be sent to the justice department.

 

2. Announcing the FBI was looking into more Clinton emails a week before the election.

 

3. Announcing two days before the election that the new Clinton emails were a big nothing.

 

4. Failing to announce last summer the FBI was investigating the Trump campaign's ties to Russians.

 

5. Failing to drop the Russian investigation.

 

6. Something else I didn't list.

 

Which of those should get the head of the FBI fired?

 

Probably should add this one:

 

Comey called Trump 'crazy' after Obama wiretapping claims | Daily Mail Online

I don't trust President Trump at all. And I'm not liberal.

 

I think the firing was fishy due to timing. It just looks bad when you fire the guy overseeing the investigation into you IMO.

 

FWIW, I wouldn't have trusted a President Clinton either.

Geez people, let's get it right. There is no investigation of Presidrnt Trump and ties to Russia. It is a counter intelligence probe into Russia's possibly trying to influence the election.

 

Slam President Trump all you like but get the facts straight.

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