What is the real reason for his firing?

 

He lost the election for HRC. :lol2:

I think incompetence and inconsistent.

 

What did he do that showed incompetence?

 

What did he do that showed inconsistency?

He lost the election for HRC. :lol2:

 

I know you are kind of joking when you say this but that is what Trump alluded to in his letter isn't it?

What is the real reason for his firing?

 

I think because the POTUS believes he is not loyal and wants to stop the Russian stuff. He just brought it to a level he probably didn't want. He fired someone that was investigating him and/or his staff. I see it no other way. If he or his staff didn't do anything wrong let it happen. I believe he had something. You can bet your bottom dollar the next director won't have anything even if he does.

 

I see it no other way because I don't trust the POTUS at all. Just because it might not be conventional doesn't mean it is right.

Interesting read. What a difference a few months make.

 

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I know you are kind of joking when you say this but that is what Trump alluded to in his letter isn't it?

 

I'm actually just laughing. That was the reason presented.

How does that sit with the "Lock her up" crowd?

I think incompetence and inconsistent.

 

Or insubordination. ..

I think because the POTUS believes he is not loyal and wants to stop the Russian stuff. He just brought it to a level he probably didn't want. He fired someone that was investigating him and/or his staff. I see it no other way. If he or his staff didn't do anything wrong let it happen. I believe he had something. You can bet your bottom dollar the next director won't have anything even if he does.

 

I see it no other way because I don't trust the POTUS at all. Just because it might not be conventional doesn't mean it is right.

 

This is pretty much how I feel.

Interesting read. What a difference a few months make.

 

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I think that firing Comey over the Hillary Clinton scandal would have been the absolute wrong thing to do.

What did he do that showed incompetence?

 

What did he do that showed inconsistency?

 

I think incompetence on the email scandal.

 

I think inconsistent on finding leaks and prosecuting higher level people for obvious crimes.

Hillary, Lois Lerner, etc. especially the Clinton Foundation.

Former Assistant AG Terwiliger (sp?) was on one of the NPR programs this afternoon. His perspective was most reasonable and interesting. He said that Mr. Comey's transgressions began last July when he announced no charges would be filed after the email investigation. Mr. Terwiliger's perspective was that the timing is unfortunate, but that the event was inevitable. He also said that the FBI investigation would continue. Investigations don't end just because administration changes.

 

Very interesting to listen to him.

 

Another interesting perspective from Rep. Jim Banks of Indiana ®. He has no issue with the firing. But he feels the president owes it to the American people to explain his reasons and timing. Not because he thinks anything done was inappropriate, but in the interest of transparency.

 

Great day for political programming! :lol2:

 

Very well stated.

Or insubordination. ..

 

Director Comey was definitely insubordinate.

I haven't seen anybody say he shouldn't have been fired.

 

What I have seen a lot of is that the timing does not look good.

 

When someone needs to be fired the correct time to do it is immediately.

 

And I actually think the timing looks right between Comey's latest disaster in front of Congress and with the new Deputy Director of the Justice Department passing judgment.

 

Furthermore, it is my opinion that anyone that complains about timing (and I am not saying you are Deuce) is just looking for a reason to complain because they don't have any real reason that they are able to articulate.

I see two concerns with the firing.

 

Obviously, Comey was handling an investigation that may impact the current administration. That looks third worldish - firing someone who is investigating the leadership in an administration.

 

Second, what are the criteria to fire the FBI Director? This firing has put a gray area over the position. Can you fire the FBI Director because of political policy decisions? Do we really want to walk down that path? Previously, the FBI Director has been given reign to do the job as he deems necessary. With this firing the position starts to look more political and less about law enforcement and the rule of law.

 

Because of this firing, I will be shocked if an outside prosecutor is not brought on to complete the Russian investigation. Failure to do that throws shade on Trump and his administration, and by extension the Republican party if they do not bring on an independent prosecutor.

 

To your first point, Comey's agency, the FBI was handing the investigation, not James Comey. And anyone that thinks the investigation is not going to be followed through or tanked (like Comey did with the Clinton Email Felonies) is way off base in my opinion.

 

On your second point, the President is within his rights to fire the FBI Director, which makes your point a non-starter.

 

To your third point, I thought it was still being termed a counter-intelligence investigation, if so, that is not a proper use of a special prosecutor. If if turns criminal, then I agree a special/independent prosecutor should handle the case.

 

And if we want to talk about special prosecutors, before we do anything we should hire a special prosecutor to go back and investigate the Clinton Email case from scratch and let the special prosecutor make the decision on what to do.

When someone needs to be fired the correct time to do it is immediately.

 

And I actually think the timing looks right between Comey's latest disaster in front of Congress and with the new Deputy Director of the Justice Department passing judgment.

 

Furthermore, it is my opinion that anyone that complains about timing (and I am not saying you are Deuce) is just looking for a reason to complain because they don't have any real reason that they are able to articulate.

 

I think Bengal Maniac articulated it very well. With the investigation of Russia going on and Comey's role in that investigation it looks incredibly fishy for him to be fired now when both sides of the aisle seem to agree he should have been fired at points that boosts their personal agendas. Democrats said he should have been fired when he went public on Hillary. Republicans said he should be fired when he cleared Hillary. People are going to complain regardless. For me, the timing of this firing looks fishy and I'm not buying any of the spin. Especially if the Russia investigation disappears.