Since this is one of the biggest (if not biggest) issues the Right has with the Obama Administration, and a point Trump used to get elected, I figured a thread to track this specific topic was necessary.

 

We can start by pointing out that over night the Senate voted down the following items to get the ball rolling:

 

-Keeping preexisting conditions protection

-Allowing parents to cover young adults on their plans

-Keeping contraceptive coverage

I'm interested in seeing what changes and how much cheaper my healthcare is supposed to become now.

I'm interested in seeing what changes and how much cheaper my healthcare is supposed to become now.

 

I'm expecting drastic differences once it's repealed.

I'm expecting drastic differences once it's repealed.

 

I'm kind of excited to see what happens. Aren't you?

I don't know about repeal b/c it will be way too expensive. However, it needs to do more for people who are healthy vs those who are sick from chronic self-abuse. If everyone has to pay into it, supposedly, even if they have their own health insurance, there should be some sort of reward for keeping health markers at a certain level (BMI DEFINITELY IS NOT THE MEASURE THERE). I don't believe that health care companies should be able to turn a profit due to the basic fiduciary duty they have w/ the US public and economy. I also don't feel that I should have to pay for people who refuse to look after themselves.

 

Finally, if I have insurance through work, I shouldn't have to pay an insurance tax for those who do not. I am being billed twice for insurance.

I'm kind of excited to see what happens. Aren't you?

 

I'm more excited to see the spin machine at work.

They'll have to pass the bill so you can read the bill.

I'm expecting drastic differences once it's repealed.

 

I'm kind of excited to see what happens. Aren't you?

You both are on group plans correct? It's not going to do much for you if so.

You both are on group plans correct? It's not going to do much for you if so.

 

Yep, I think they know that. We are just waiting for the abundant choices we will have. We are all overwhelmed with excitement.

 

With 20 less million people with health care, as reported by some. thousands of jobs lost (they can build cars and air conditioners, though) we are beginning to make America Great again.

Yep, I think they know that. We are just waiting for the abundant choices we will have. We are all overwhelmed with excitement.

 

With 20 less million people with health care, as reported by some. thousands of jobs lost (they can build cars and air conditioners, though) we are beginning to make America Great again.

I'll be shocked if all of that is repealed.

I believe this is probably the biggest early political challenge for the new administration. ACA needs major fixing since it's worse flaw is that it simply is not financially viable. But simply repealing it and opening the door to go backwards on the popular features such as coverage of pre-existing conditions and including other family members of older age groups would be negatively received (and yes, there were some good things in ACA).

 

Trump has been 'setting tone' on immigration and jobs. But other than calling ACA 'a disaster' (and he probably is stating that mostly from the financial aspect) he has not set a specific tone on how he expects Congress to work out a new proposal.

 

Letting Congress run with and treat it as a political football without oversight from his team and boundaries of what he would consider acceptable when an actual bill or bills hit his desk seems like it would be a mistake. He needs to get some leadership on this as it appears the Congress kiddies already have the matches out and are playing with political fire that would have impact on every American.

I'm with Rand Paul on this, it shouldn't be repealed until they have a replacement.

 

Politicians being politicians though, without any regard to the people it may affect.

I think part of the strategy here is to repeal it, create a crisis in the health markets, then use that as leverage to get votes on a replacement (which I have more thoughts on). The risk is Republicans are going to bear the blame from the fallout if they do that. At least some, like Paul, are skeptical that's a risk worth taking.

If I was president (we would all be in trouble, but health care would be fixed) I would abolish the AHCA. However, I'd only do that AFTER I put in place, with the help of my congressmen (which would be executed by the CIA if they didn't comply) to pass legislation that included a myriad of constraints on insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies (mostly the latter). Once that was established, a fair marketplace with respectable premiums would be attainable. Otherwise we are peeing on our shoe if we ditch the current plan in this current marketplace and oppressive big Pharm/Insurance environment.

 

Example: Granny has cancer. She has been prescribed by Doc Doolittle drug A to treat her cancer. BIGPHARM holds the patent on that drug (which is typically in the 20yr range and prevents a generic until it expires) and that drug costs 10K/month. Sure Granny only has to come up with enough $ to meet her deductible and after that she's good with the meds being covered entirely by insurance, but she's racked up a bill (not really) in the neighborhood of 500K before she finally croaks. Anyone see the problem with that? You tell me where the problem lies and why your premiums are through the roof?