Were the players at the news conference yesterday, or was this a separate news conference with the players?

 

I believe the players had a press conference on Friday.

I find it extremely hard to believe Pitino knew anything at all about this. He's what 2 years removed from a National Championship? Makes no sense.

I find it extremely hard to believe Pitino knew anything at all about this. He's what 2 years removed from a National Championship? Makes no sense.

The incidents were occurring around that time. Now two years after.

 

Regardless, people do things that make no sense all the time. I'm on the fence whether he knew or not, but also of the opinion it doesn't matter.

I find it extremely hard to believe Pitino knew anything at all about this. He's what 2 years removed from a National Championship? Makes no sense.

 

While I don't know whether he had any knowledge of it or not, honestly I don't think he did. But this happened prior and during to said championship. They won't lose their championship I don't believe, but it does bring up the question of whether they should or not. I certainly believe that it would follow under NCAA guidelines of vacating a title, but then again the NCAA doesn't follow their rules either.

Vitale says Slick Rick took a lie detector test and passed.

Not relevant. At the end of the day he's responsible for the program.

Just read the whole thread. I am not a Louisville fan (don't hate them either). I feel very bad for ALL of the current players, not just the two seniors. Who knows if any of the current players will ever have as good a chance in future years to win it all than they do this year (wide open tourney coming up). After hearing Rick's comments about this, I am surprised he did not resign in protest. I see no way he survives this. I have said it before...for a proud institution like Louisville to have low character guys like Petrino and Pitino running its two major sports programs...sort of shocking to me.

 

Oh and BTW, I love listening to Dakich...he is getting blasted on here by many but the guy has forgotten more about big time college athletics than most of the posters on here will ever know...I don't always agree with him but I like that he says what he feels and you can either like it or not...does not matter to him...sort of refreshing.

I think people in this town feel somewhat strongly about self-imposing that postseason ban. This is hanging over the entrance to Patrick O'Shea's, right across Second Street from the Yum Center:

 

Oh and BTW, I love listening to Dakich...he is getting blasted on here by many but the guy has forgotten more about big time college athletics than most of the posters on here will ever know...I don't always agree with him but I like that he says what he feels and you can either like it or not...does not matter to him...sort of refreshing.

 

This feels appropriate here regarding my feelings on Dakich:

 

"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"

- Isaac Asimov

I think people in this town feel somewhat strongly about self-imposing that postseason ban. This is hanging over the entrance to Patrick O'Shea's, right across Second Street from the Yum Center:

 

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Wow, I didn't expect that.

Wow, I didn't expect that.

 

Going into yesterday, I think Andre McGee still felt the brunt of Louisville fans' anger. In a way that only a university president can, Ramsey somehow managed to make himself the bad guy. Most everyone I've talked to around town is furious with him.

Going into yesterday, I think Andre McGee still felt the brunt of Louisville fans' anger. In a way that only a university president can, Ramsey somehow managed to make himself the bad guy. Most everyone I've talked to around town is furious with him.

 

While I don't like Ramsey one bit, IMO, he did what was best for the program going forward. You and I hashed this out through our posts yesterday and to be honest, I think both of us would agree that this was something that needed done for UL's sake moving forward. You have your reasoning behind it and while mine is slightly different, I think we both understand why they self imposed punishment as quickly as they did.

 

What I don't understand is why so many people are upset about it. In your opinion, do you think that the belief among the fans is that UL could have avoided any punishment if they fought it? Because otherwise, I don't know why the fans are so upset. IMO, UL's own investigation showed them enough that they felt like they need to act quickly on this and go into damage control mode with the NCAA. I would have to assume otherwise they would have held off and waited on the NCAA to present their findings.

 

Like I said I don't like Ramsey one bit, Jurich either for that matter. But in my opinion Ramsey did what is best for the program on this one. However he did throw the current players under the bus. Maybe that's what the fans are so upset about?

Just read the whole thread. I am not a Louisville fan (don't hate them either). I feel very bad for ALL of the current players, not just the two seniors. Who knows if any of the current players will ever have as good a chance in future years to win it all than they do this year (wide open tourney coming up). After hearing Rick's comments about this, I am surprised he did not resign in protest. I see no way he survives this. I have said it before...for a proud institution like Louisville to have low character guys like Petrino and Pitino running its two major sports programs...sort of shocking to me.

 

Oh and BTW, I love listening to Dakich...he is getting blasted on here by many but the guy has forgotten more about big time college athletics than most of the posters on here will ever know...I don't always agree with him but I like that he says what he feels and you can either like it or not...does not matter to him...sort of refreshing.

 

If it doesn't matter to him why did he delete his Tweet?

I disagree with Ramsey did what is best for the program. He did what is best for him to Keep is job. Ramsey has more scandal issues that the basketball team.

 

I say UL should have just played it out and waited for the hammer. UL didn't want to do that because several would be allowed to transfer. So that is why the decision to do it this year. Lee and Lewis have been placed as the sacrifice.

 

I don't think Rick returns. I see him retiring. As much as I want him terminated for lack of control. I know this will sound crazy if he resigns then I will consider him a coward. If this was me I would be expect to be fired. I wouldn't resign or retire because my pride would want to right the ship.

If it doesn't matter to him why did he delete his Tweet?

 

 

If I had to guess he wants to appear to be less of an idiot, lol.

I disagree with Ramsey did what is best for the program. He did what is best for him to Keep is job. Ramsey has more scandal issues that the basketball team.

 

I say UL should have just played it out and waited for the hammer. UL didn't want to do that because several would be allowed to transfer. So that is why the decision to do it this year. Lee and Lewis have been placed as the sacrifice.

 

I don't think Rick returns. I see him retiring. As much as I want him terminated for lack of control. I know this will sound crazy if he resigns then I will consider him a coward. If this was me I would be expect to be fired. I wouldn't resign or retire because my pride would want to right the ship.

 

He did what he did in hopes that the NCAA will not implement another post season ban going forward. By self punishing the program with a post season ban this season I imagine he thinks that part of the punishment is out of the way.

 

That said, a post season ban next season would severely hurt the program. It would kill them in recruiting and also open up the possibility for current players to transfer out. Not to mention making it harder to find a coach that wants to walk into that mess when Pitino is let go. From what I can gather, he is willing to throw the current players under the bus to help the program going forward.

 

As long as the NCAA does not hand down another post season ban, they can get rid of Pitino this year, get the coach they want and move forward. Is it slimy and unethical, sure it is, but all he cares about is doing what's best for the program, as that is what is best for him if he wants to keep his job.