September 28, 201511 yr Pope Francis is a breath of fresh air, but I'm glad he's headed back to Italy before someone asked him who he likes to win the World Series.
September 28, 201511 yr I guess if Kim Davis was asking for anything like a "conscientious objector" status I wouldn't have much to say about her case. If she refused to personally issue a marriage license while letting her deputies continue as normal (and this was an option given to her at every stage of this process) this would have barely warranted a mention in the local newspaper. Instead she's pulled ever lever of her authority as a county official to turn this into a challenge to the supremacy of the federal government and the practice of judicial review. As such, I have little sympathy for her alleged plight. The issue notwithstanding, this is why I support her. We should always be looking to watch those that watch over us....or be saddled with the outcome.
September 28, 201511 yr Pope Francis is a breath of fresh air, but I'm glad he's headed back to Italy before someone asked him who he likes to win the World Series. One would assume he'd go with the Cardinals but it's hard to say for sure.
September 28, 201511 yr One would assume he'd go with the Cardinals but it's hard to say for sure. Nope...Pope Frankie is an underdog kinda guy. He'd obviously be pulling for the Padres over the Cardinals.
September 28, 201511 yr I guess if Kim Davis was asking for anything like a "conscientious objector" status I wouldn't have much to say about her case. If she refused to personally issue a marriage license while letting her deputies continue as normal (and this was an option given to her at every stage of this process) this would have barely warranted a mention in the local newspaper. Instead she's pulled ever lever of her authority as a county official to turn this into a challenge to the supremacy of the federal government and the practice of judicial review. As such, I have little sympathy for her alleged plight. Nor do I really.
September 28, 201511 yr I didn't read the linked articles. I did read what purported to be the Pope's words on some website earlier, and I don't disagree with him, he stopped short of supporting Kim Davis. What I read he supported people having religious objections and their right to voice them. I didn't see where he said people could do so in instances where they could not do their job. Finally...soooooooooo sick of her. Write your book, get your money, and go away. The most annoying part of this is that she orchestrated it, or allowed herself to be orchestrated. She argued, in the court documents that I read, that her signature was an "approval" of gay marriage. Her signature was not that, and she never has to sign one anyway. Her clerks could have been signing them all along. Finally, the muslim soldiers who did not fight should have been dishonorably discharged, at the very least.
September 28, 201511 yr There have been at least a few Muslims that were afforded Conscientious Objector Status that keep them from being deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. They weren't in all cases forced out of their job...shouldn't the same outcry against them be present as there was been against the Rowan Clerk? The basis for their objection is that as a Muslim their religion says they can not fight against or kill other Muslims...even though they freely joined the US Military and took an Oath to Defend the US from all Enemies. Was there outrage when this happened, if so I missed it. Even the American Islamic Forum for Democracy doesn't think they should get this status. On the other hand, Muhammad Ali cited the same reason for not going to Vietnam and essentially was stripped of his title and lost his job for three years.
September 28, 201511 yr He didn't really defend Kim Davis, that's a little misleading. He was defending the idea that she can believe whatever she wants to believe. Nobody has said any different than that, to my knowledge. She can hate gay people all she wants on her own time. She can't do it in an office where she is paid to issue marriage licenses. THIS.
September 28, 201511 yr One would assume he'd go with the Cardinals but it's hard to say for sure. Saints in the Super Bowl.
September 28, 201511 yr Author I hope the Pope is informed of the details then states his firm position. Would really like to see where he stands. I am sure they will see the new articles as several other media sites have picked this up. Create some good talk for sure.
September 28, 201511 yr I really need to find a religion that only allows me to work 2 hours a day, no weekends, and a good beer is part of communion. Any suggestions?
September 29, 201511 yr Author Just make it up as you go. Thats what everyone else does these days. If we say its so then by golly thats the way it is. Call it Lucky55. You would have tons of members soon. Promise beer and heaven.
September 29, 201511 yr I really need to find a religion that only allows me to work 2 hours a day, no weekends, and a good beer is part of communion. Any suggestions? Start your own...of course I hope you can survive on 10 hours pay per week :lol2:
September 29, 201511 yr Start your own...of course I hope you can survive on 10 hours pay per week :lol2: Good point. It can be non-profit and I could take donations.
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