July 24, 201511 yr UC police are no longer to patrol off campus. That's scary that they've already made a major change this early in the process. I am on riot watch here in Cincy.
July 24, 201511 yr That's scary that they've already made a major change this early in the process. I am on riot watch here in Cincy. I agree, VERY SCARY! Scary for anyone who is ever in Clifton, and what about the kids who go to UC? Or go up there to hang out with their friends?? Even with UC and CPD, and the foot patrols around UC, there still wasn't enough officers! If the UC PD can't patrol off campus, it just went from kinda bad to a lot worse around UC.
July 24, 201511 yr That's scary that they've already made a major change this early in the process. I am on riot watch here in Cincy. Especially since, based on reports I've seen at least, the officer first spotted the vehicle on campus.
July 24, 201511 yr I agree, VERY SCARY! Scary for anyone who is ever in Clifton, and what about the kids who go to UC? Or go up there to hang out with their friends?? Even with UC and CPD, and the foot patrols around UC, there still wasn't enough officers! If the UC PD can't patrol off campus, it just went from kinda bad to a lot worse around UC. In the recent past I've seen UC police foot patrols on Calhoun, which made me feel more secure. They've made themselves known with a pleasant "Hello", and "How's everything going?" Is Calhoun, being right on the edge of UC, considered "on" or "off" campus, and if it's considered "off" does this mean that now they can no longer foot patrol that area? If not, that's not very cool. Their presence there is much needed. Can CPD stretch their resources just to beef up watch there? I don't frequent that area as much as I once did, but now I get the feeling it's going to be even less. Obviously the University can't just up and relocate their entire campus to a safer area, but if I was a parent sending my kid there, I'd be awfully nervous. Excellent school, not so excellent area. It's really a shame, and a mountain to climb to try to do anything about it.
July 24, 201511 yr It's the same governing entity CPD and UCPD are under the same governing entity? If so UCPD may be the only campus police in the country that answers to the local city police.
July 24, 201511 yr CPD and UCPD are under the same governing entity? If so UCPD may be the only campus police in the country that answers to the local city police. If they are the same entity, someone dropped the ball because the UCPD was not operating under the collaborative set up by the Feds after the 2001 riots. It will be interesting to see how that plays out when the Feds come back to town as I'm sure they will.
July 24, 201511 yr If they are the same entity, someone dropped the ball because the UCPD was not operating under the collaborative set up by the Feds after the 2001 riots. It will be interesting to see how that plays out when the Feds come back to town as I'm sure they will. I'm pretty sure they aren't under the same.
July 24, 201511 yr CPD and UCPD are under the same governing entity? If so UCPD may be the only campus police in the country that answers to the local city police. Sorry, I should've been more clear. What I meant was, Deters will determine if there will be prosecution of the officer. As it stands now, they are withholding the video. By doing this, they are showing there could potentially be some problems. Currently, all campus police are restricted to patrolling the campus. By this action, I believe they do not want to put the campus police in a compromising position considering the current climate. Secondly, you would think the campus police would be under the same collaborative as the city police. Why would the city let another entity patrol the area without being under the same guidelines? Makes no sense.
July 24, 201511 yr Saw this on Facebook: #Universityofcincinnati #hottestcollegeinamerica #prezono In response to UC abandoning it's students: To whom it may concern, The loss of a life is always tragic; however the passive and reactive handling of the situation has shown complete disregard to the well being of the University of Cincinnati's students. First off, I'd like to address the officer. What reason would there be to implement the use of deadly force, unless he felt his life was at risk? The nationwide epidemic of police brutality accusations and the usage of a body camera would stiffen any consideration of the use of excessive force. Not to mention, this is an experienced officer. It makes no sense to me, or the student body, why the administration of UC would feel it necessary to jump to a conclusion, and eliminate its off campus patrols. Now to move to the biggest issue of this profane email the student body just received. The email states, "The changes we have announced are not intended to be permanent." What a red herring. This reads as nothing more than some cover your (behind) legal jargon. It's really a disgusting statement. It suggests that UC police will not change this policy until a student is harmed because of the lack of police patrols in the area. If the student's well being was really priority 1, police patrols would be increased for the time being. As much as I respect the "gesture" to increase city police patrols, I think they have their hands full with the 28.6% increase in shootings this year. Once again, an increase in crime should mean an increase in all able police force patrols. I'm sure as much as UCPD wants to sit around campus and watch intramural sports this fall, they much rather be doing their jobs. Regards, The Concerned Student Body > July 24, 2015 To: UC Students, Faculty and Staff From: President Santa J. Ono Concerns have been expressed about our announcement that the UC Police Department is focusing patrols on campus, following the officer-involved shooting that occurred on July 19. We have communicated with Cincinnati Police District 4 and 5 captains, who have agreed to increase their police patrols in the neighborhoods surrounding our Uptown campuses. We will be meeting soon with city and community leaders to evaluate our patrol areas. The changes we have announced are not intended to be permanent, and we will be monitoring them on a continuing basis to make adjustments as warranted. Please be assured that the safety of the university community remains our No. 1 priority. Our relationship with the city remains strong, and we will continue to work together to address any concerns. It is important to remember that our NightRide service will continue to operate as usual, both on and off campus (call 556-RIDE). Additionally, our Safety Ambassadors and Campus Watch patrols will continue their work in the community. We know that many of you want to be kept informed of the developments related to the events of July 19. A university web page has been created with all of the updates located in one place. I encourage you to use this website to find the latest information. I hope the link below will be very helpful to you during this difficult tim
July 25, 201511 yr ^ very good article! So, when the next UC student is raped, assaulted, murdered off campus then UC "might" change their new policy? Why would any student feel safe around campus now? And what about the parents? Now they have a lot more to worry about. What if your daughter attends UC! Talk about parents being worried.
July 25, 201511 yr :lol2: You can continue to be a smart aleck, but the fact that your statements regarding expressways pertaining to this incident (and my original comment about three miles) are irrelevant. Actually not so much, UC Campus is right between two highways (interstates) Id say that both interstates are within their jurisdiction, for a small part anyways. Do people use the interstates to get from one point on campus to another? Three miles is three miles whether on surface streets or the interstate. Yes, you can travel on one faster, but the distance is the issue. Doesn't change my concern. If you don't know then how can you weigh in? Just bc in your mind that doesn't add up. C'mon man.
July 25, 201511 yr :lol2: You can continue to be a smart aleck, but the fact that your statements regarding expressways pertaining to this incident (and my original comment about three miles) are irrelevant. Actually not so much, UC Campus is right between two highways (interstates) Id say that both interstates are within their jurisdiction, for a small part anyways. Do people use the interstates to get from one point on campus to another? Three miles is three miles whether on surface streets or the interstate. Yes, you can travel on one faster, but the distance is the issue. Doesn't change my concern. Why is it an issue, if the officer is trained the same as every other officer in southern Ohio? Why should one be restricted? You got what you asked for I guess but in my opinion not rightfully so. Edited July 25, 201511 yr by sportsfan41
July 25, 201511 yr :lol2: You can continue to be a smart aleck, but the fact that your statements regarding expressways pertaining to this incident (and my original comment about three miles) are irrelevant. Actually not so much, UC Campus is right between two highways (interstates) Id say that both interstates are within their jurisdiction, for a small part anyways. There was never a debate (at least on my end) about whether or not this officer was where he was supposed to be or not. Someone said they believed they could patrol up to three miles away from campus. I said I believed that was too far. Why? Is that where campus police tend to go to far? Get wild, what's you're reasoning? Edited July 25, 201511 yr by sportsfan41
July 25, 201511 yr :lol2: You can continue to be a smart aleck, but the fact that your statements regarding expressways pertaining to this incident (and my original comment about three miles) are irrelevant. Actually not so much, UC Campus is right between two highways (interstates) Id say that both interstates are within their jurisdiction, for a small part anyways. Agreed. The public can wait until after the appropriate people see it first. I think that has been a mistake in other cases across the country. Releasing video prematurely. Disagree.... UNLESS they think the grand jury could be affected by a timely release....... who in the hell rightfully determines that. Edited July 25, 201511 yr by sportsfan41
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