How about Catholic schools accept anyone that applies?

 

 

As long as you can pay, up to a certain point with financial aid that is, Trinity doesn't turn you away. On top of that Trinity often (most of the time) will accept students that were kicked out of other schools because everyone deserves a second chance.

 

You want to go into the level of inclusion that Trinity stands for? I know you are new here and likely are completely ignorant of anything related to Trinity outside of the football team, but Trinity is among the most inclusive of any and all who apply. The exam students take before going to Trinity is a placement exam, not an admissions test. We don't turn people away on account of academic ability or even physical ability since Trinity has made it a point to be as accessible as possible for those with disabilities. We even have a special needs program that most private schools do not offer, is it as developed as some? No, but the fact of the matter is that Trinity doesn't care who you are, every young man deserves a chance to be a Shamrock no matter who you are, how smart you are, or whether you even play any sports.

I agree with you!

 

Problem is that you have to have both systems agree to that. Locally the county system is no longer going to allow their students to attend the Ind. City School. In the past around 200 students from K-12 attended the city schools while living in the county, this will no longer be allowed by the county school system.

 

 

Frankly I think to try and stimulate the education system in KY (which sadly lags behind many other states) it should be something mandated by the state to allow students to attend any public school within the borders of the state and have any and all funds follow that student to allow for more options, choice and better outcomes academically. This system of little fortified districts that restrict student mobility baffles and irritates me, as a country where we value freedom of speech and expression don't we have the right to allows our parents and children choose their own schools? As opposed to being forced into a district they may not even have the option to move out of to no fault of their own.

Again, the bottom line is the public schools, not the private schools. Open Enrollment should be state wide, if I'm not happy with the education a school is providing my child, I should be able to take my student and move to another school freely. Closed boundaries are a schools way of making students go to their school no matter the circumstances, if a school is proud of their product students/parents will fight to keep their students at that school.

 

Exactly!

Frankly I think to try and stimulate the education system in KY (which sadly lags behind many other states) it should be something mandated by the state to allow students to attend any public school within the borders of the state and have any and all funds follow that student to allow for more options, choice and better outcomes academically. This system of little fortified districts that restrict student mobility baffles and irritates me, as a country where we value freedom of speech and expression don't we have the right to allows our parents and children choose their own schools? As opposed to being forced into a district they may not even have the option to move out of to no fault of their own.

On the surface it sounds great but how would the school systems be able to properly build an appropriate sized school?

That's up to the school. But in my area; Greenup County, Boyd County, Carter County and Elliot County; a student's ADA money follows them to what ever school they attend. That is the way it should be state wide - Open enrollment with ADA following the student. Hold the school accountable for retaining their students.

 

In most cases ADA money does not cover the cost to educate the student. Many schools just limit tuition when ADA money follows the student. I do agree it is the school's job to retain the student. It is very doubtful a school is going to just waive tuition.

On the surface it sounds great but how would the school systems be able to properly build an appropriate sized school?

 

What do you mean? Do you mean without the funding from students who aren't attending that school?

In most cases ADA money does not cover the cost to educate the student. Many schools just limit tuition when ADA money follows the student. I do agree it is the school's job to retain the student. It is very doubtful a school is going to just waive tuition.

None of the 10 public schools in my area charge tuition. You are right, the ADA money does not cover the cost of education but the schools in my area cover the difference, why can't school in the rest of the state do the same? If you are putting a better product out there, students will come and funding will take care of it's self. The school my kids went to, annually had parents of out-of-district students volunteer and ask to pay tuition, the school turned everyone of them down and took their student anyway.

What exactly is ADA money? I thought that the main funding for public schools came from taxes on real property within the particular county. If all the students from one county migrate to a better school in a neighboring county, does that increase the taxes for the property owners in the county with the good school? Does the other county get off scot free?

What exactly is ADA money? I thought that the main funding for public schools came from taxes on real property within the particular county. If all the students from one county migrate to a better school in a neighboring county, does that increase the taxes for the property owners in the county with the good school? Does the other county get off scot free?

Each public school receives "Average Daily Attendance" money from the stated for each student. I think in my area that amount is around $7K per student per year.

 

By the way, private schools do not receive ADA money for students.

What do you mean? Do you mean without the funding from students who aren't attending that school?

I mean if a school district has 1000 high school students and 2 high schools that are built to hold them(500 each) but they all want to go to one high school plus another 200 want to attend that same high school. How would the district be able to have a properly sized school? I know that is overly simplistic but it could be a possibility with statewide open enrollment.

I mean if a school district has 1000 high school students and 2 high schools that are built to hold them(500 each) but they all want to go to one high school plus another 200 want to attend that same high school. How would the district be able to have a properly sized school? I know that is overly simplistic but it could be a possibility with statewide open enrollment.

 

I am fine with priority being given to students in geographic proximity to the school, to solve that problem, but let's face it the school's education system has it flaws and allowing choice is one way to stimulate competition between schools (public and private). One of the things that has been a big deal for schools like Trinity is the fact that we have no guaranteed funding at all, so competition for student is something that is a part of daily life at a school like that. Try new things, new angles, look at different ways of attracting and raising the money. Donors have been a big part of what has helped Trinity, it isn't all tuition alone, but we also get no money from the state and we don't really get much of anything from the archdiocese either.

 

Also when we build new schools in Kentucky why not look at building enough for expansion or shoot even cooperative efforts between the school districts. Given the fact that we have 120 counties that frankly don't all need to exist given the population of the state, some combining and streamlining of school systems (shoot even the counties themselves) could well be beneficial. To be fair this is me just throwing out other ideas. I think that a lot of money spent on building new schools could be better spent on upgrading and adding on to older facilities. I am not even sure I can think of the last time they built a new high school in Jefferson County.

Who pays for the kid's education then?

 

Everyone else that pays taxes.

I'm still very interested to hear the @Pioneer.Pride plan to divide 6A. Which 16 teams get to leave the KHSAA and which ones stay? How is it determined who stays and who goes? How long before those teams get tired of just playing each other because they won't be able to play any other schools in KY since KHSAA schools can't play schools not in their state association.

How about Catholic schools accept anyone that applies?

 

Not all public schools with open enrollment accept everyone that applies. Manual and Male jump to mind. Trinity voluntarily complies with federal guidelines for handicapped students and has an OUTSTANDING program for special needs students.

Just let everyone have open districts.