Has HC rendered the All-A meaningless?

[dallaslaredo]

I'm been told over and over that the All-A is there for small schools to compete and have their day in the sun with their own little "State Championship". Problem is, when small schools are able to win their Region and go to the actual, real State Championship (almost happened in both boys and girls for the 9th) the argument doesn't hold up. You can't have it both ways, small schools.

 

Maybe the enrollment for the All-A needs to be lowered. Or maybe it should be limited to small Public schools only, who I'm guessing it was designed for in the first place (Silver Grove, Dayton, Bellevue come to mind.) Either way will stretch the already thin "State Champs" claim even thinner.

[lawildcat]

The All A has been debated to death here.

 

It's not going away people.

[futurecoach]

I'm been told over and over that the All-A is there for small schools to compete and have their day in the sun with their own little "State Championship". Problem is, when small schools are able to win their Region and go to the actual, real State Championship (almost happened in both boys and girls for the 9th) the argument doesn't hold up. You can't have it both ways, small schools.

 

Maybe the enrollment for the All-A needs to be lowered. Or maybe it should be limited to small Public schools only, who I'm guessing it was designed for in the first place (Silver Grove, Dayton, Bellevue come to mind.) Either way will stretch the already thin "State Champs" claim even thinner.

 

Stretch the All A State Champs claim even thinner to whom? You? Your opinion may be that it stretches thinner, but it doesn't mean it really is. At the end of the day even if Holy Cross doesn't win the KHSAA State Champion, they still are the All State Champion in the state for the criteria that was met for the All A. So they will always know they were the best school in the state that met that criteria to be in the All A. Now whoever wins the KHSAA state tournament is the best team in the whole state. The All A takes nothing away from the KHSAA winner, so I have no idea why people make that big of a deal about it. Especially adults who it doesn't effect at all.

[Jayhawk95]

The All A has been debated to death here.

 

It's not going away people.

 

OMG not again....... :laugh::deadhorse:

[lawildcat]

OMG not again....... :laugh::deadhorse:

 

I'm here every day for your amusement. Try the veal.

Edited March 9, 2015 by lawildcat

[ESPNdeux]

I'm been told over and over that the All-A is there for small schools to compete and have their day in the sun with their own little "State Championship". Problem is, when small schools are able to win their Region and go to the actual, real State Championship (almost happened in both boys and girls for the 9th) the argument doesn't hold up. You can't have it both ways, small schools.

 

Maybe the enrollment for the All-A needs to be lowered. Or maybe it should be limited to small Public schools only, who I'm guessing it was designed for in the first place (Silver Grove, Dayton, Bellevue come to mind.) Either way will stretch the already thin "State Champs" claim even thinner.

 

The bolded is what needs to happen but never will. Why? Because it's about $$$. Original intent was to allow small schools to compete. Now it's to make money. It's a shame because the tournament is not what it promises by it's namesake.... What would need to happen is for what happened in the first place. The true small schools (as designated by whatever enrollment number) would need to collectively 'drop out,' perhaps play in their own tournament. But that might be a bit far fetched.

[Kentonman]

You inability to digest the All A has rendered you useless.

[dallaslaredo]

Original intent was to allow small schools to compete. Now it's to make money. It's a shame because the tournament is not what it promises by it's namesake.... What would need to happen is for what happened in the first place. The true small schools (as designated by whatever enrollment number) would need to collectively 'drop out,' perhaps play in their own tournament. But that might be a bit far fetched.

 

Interesting. I don't know if it's about money. I've been told it's not (but again what else would they say?) Do you think the tournament would make more or less money if they invited only public schools? How would that decision affect ticket sales? If the feeling is some private schools travel better and have larger fan bases, then I wonder if they are keeping the enrollment right where it needs to be so certain private schools are in it.

[frankdracman23]

A) The All-A was not formed for small Public schools. One of the founders when it started in NKY was Covington Latin school. Holy Cross was also a large part as were public schools Dayton, Bellevue, Ludlow.

 

B) The "A" in ALL-A was designated when there were only 4 classes in football. So if you go back to 4 classes in football some of the larger schools like Holy Cross etc. would still be eligible by the "old" definition.

 

C) Naturally the money made by the All-A is important. Otherwise it could not exist on a statewide level. So yes trying to "shrink" the All-A would likely be suicidal. There are some regions where there are very few A teams and some regions (like the 9th) where there are many. Some regions would be left with very few teams if any downward adjustment were made.

 

D) If you like the Sweet 16 concept.....then you need to love the All-A because it keeps the talk of KY being the only state without classes for basketball down. A strong All-A equals a strong Sweet 16.

[bluenationfan]

It's not all about the money ... They give out a lot of the money they bring in, in the form of scholarships. The All A has grown in that it's not just about basketball ... There are (or at least one time there were) art competitions which gave out scholarships to the winners ... I am pretty sure there are ROTC programs as well as cheerleading programs, too. It's been several years since I've been to the state All A (the last time I went it was at EKU), but they had all of those programs and awarded several students when I was there then.

[Mr. Athletics]

Don't mess with the All A!!

[NEERFAN]

All "A" is Texas. Don't mess with it.

[AllenR]

Thank goodness it's softball season now, so RCC9 won't see this until late fall

[uk#1fan]

I know HC is very proud they won the All A!

[RCC9]

Making it for the small public schools may solve the issue of it not really being for teams that can't compete otherwise. This may not be a bad idea.