So they had this decision at 2 PM but waited until nighttime to release it? I don't understand that.

 

Did it so rush hour traffic and kids were at home. Makes sense

Retreating officers from a Toys-R-Us due to unsafe conditions. Over 100 cars are in the lot.

Ok, I'll ask. Are you saying that if the theater shooter was black he would have been shot by the police? Seriously, you are not making any sense!

 

As a person who deals in this line of work, kind of, and has officers such as Rocket, all agreeing that these events are not related, and that people do not know the events first hand. Your kidding yourself, and reaching, if you think that the officers at the theater wouldn't have shot if they felt that they may be killed

 

 

My point is that the perception of danger seems somewhat skewed.

 

 

To illustrate what I'm trying to say about the guy in Colorado:

 

War crimes have outlawed what is sometimes called a "double tap" as an act of warfare. A "double tap" is an incident where someone shoots a secondary target first, but the objective is to maximize bloodshed and the ability to respond to similar situations later, so the primary targets are first responders such as police officers, EMTs, etc.

 

If someone is crazy enough to shoot that many people, how do you know he isn't doing this (or part of a plan to do so)? That's my point.

 

As someone who deals in this kind of work, actually, I think the events are related enough for the point I'm trying to make, and that people are kidding themselves and reaching if they think the person who was actually the most dangerous of all these people wasn't the one who was taken alive. Could we at least agree that the person who was the most dangerous out of Holmes and the kid in Cleveland was the one who was taken alive?

Now, as an officer, how does all this make you feel? I know of one EPO in there and I would think more than twice about it, but the officers do not have the choice. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes.

 

They're screwed either way. Shoot and redo this all again or possibly lose your life.

 

Did it so rush hour traffic and kids were at home. Makes sense

 

Exactly. Less businesses open with customers inside, kids are home, workers at city hall and the courthouses are home. The right decision was to annoynce it outside of regular business hours.

Did it so rush hour traffic and kids were at home. Makes sense

 

Good point. No time would have been good but that does make sense.

Did it so rush hour traffic and kids were at home. Makes sense

 

Does make sense when you put it that way.

My point is that the perception of danger seems somewhat skewed.

 

 

To illustrate what I'm trying to say about the guy in Colorado:

 

War crimes have outlawed what is sometimes called a "double tap" as an act of warfare. A "double tap" is an incident where someone shoots a secondary target first, but the objective is to maximize bloodshed and the ability to respond to similar situations later, so the primary targets are first responders such as police officers, EMTs, etc.

 

If someone is crazy enough to shoot that many people, how do you know he isn't doing this (or part of a plan to do so)? That's my point.

 

As someone who deals in this kind of work, actually, I think the events are related enough for the point I'm trying to make, and that people are kidding themselves and reaching if they think the person who was actually the most dangerous of all these people wasn't the one who was taken alive. Could we at least agree that the person who was the most dangerous out of Holmes and the kid in Cleveland was the one who was taken alive?

 

At the time Holmes was taken alive and the time the kid in Cleveland was shot, the kid in Cleveland was the more dangerous one. The actions of Holmes before he surrendered and was taken into custody do not make him more dangerous at the time of his arrest.

Trooper 987 was found and is safe.

Is the military there? I'm guessing no with all the pictures/fires on TV.

At the time Holmes was taken alive and the time the kid in Cleveland was shot, the kid in Cleveland was the more dangerous one. The actions of Holmes before he surrendered and was taken into custody do not make him more dangerous at the time of his arrest.

 

 

So when police issue warrants they don't have special qualifiers for people who are considered armed and dangerous and/or are suspected of violent crimes that alert the officers serving the warrant of the suspect's possible tendencies?

More than 100 shots fired in this area on Fox News. This is like something from another country. Hard to believe it's in the heart of America

 

I know with instant access that we have now, this seems like something that's never happened here, but guys, this was the news every night in the late 1960's and early 70's. The whole country seemed to be on fire when I was a kid.

 

Please look up the 12th Street Riot in Detroit in 1967. The Governor called in the National Guard and Lyndon Johnson called in the Army to get things back under control. 43 people died.

And people question why law enforcement needs to have armored vehicle and other such equipment. I've never seen videos like this on CNN except for when they are reporting from a war zone, and that is exactly what this is tonight.

So when police issue warrants they don't have special qualifiers for people who are considered armed and dangerous and/or are suspected of violent crimes that alert the officers serving the warrant of the suspect's possible tendencies?

 

Yes but they aren't given orders to shoot on site. I'm sorry man your argument is bad. Pack it in.

So when police issue warrants they don't have special qualifiers for people who are considered armed and dangerous and/or are suspected of violent crimes that alert the officers serving the warrant of the suspect's possible tendencies?

 

The officers may be alerted to the suspect's possible tendencies but you can't just shoot them because they have those tendencies. They have to do something. Holmes did not.