Sounds like something Jesus would have said.

 

"Let him who is with a badge among you be the first to stick an IV."

 

 

Not exactly Romans 12:19 is it?

I don't agree with it, but I don't feel the least bit of sympathy. Seems like it was God's will

 

Except God gave us a few commandments to live by, one of which is "thou shalt not kill". I don't remember seeing any official corollaries released in regards to that. It still baffles me how the most conservative, religious folks are typically the ones most in favor of the death penalty.

 

Bottom line is it's cruel, barbaric, not a deterrent, and really expensive to carry out. And does nothing to change the situation. Murder is a terrible crime. But murder in response to murder solves nothing.

Except God gave us a few commandments to live by, one of which is "thou shalt not kill". I don't remember seeing any official corollaries released in regards to that. It still baffles me how the most conservative, religious folks are typically the ones most in favor of the death penalty.

 

Bottom line is it's cruel, barbaric, not a deterrent, and really expensive to carry out. And does nothing to change the situation. Murder is a terrible crime. But murder in response to murder solves nothing.

Oh it's definitely a deterrent. Name one person who was executed that ever murdered again.

Oh it's definitely a deterrent. Name one person who was executed that ever murdered again.

 

On the same note, not too many murderers who spent life in prison murdered again either.

Given how I have heard a heroin OD works - stopping the heart almost immediately - it seems that there may be useful purpose for it. All these drug cocktails sound elaborate and complex compared to death by a hot dose of heroin.

On the same note, not too many murderers who spent life in prison murdered again either.

 

But there have been some.

Oh it's definitely a deterrent. Name one person who was executed that ever murdered again.

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Oh it's definitely a deterrent. Name one person who was executed that ever murdered again.

 

Which murders are the death penalty deterring in the United States? Are murder numbers in our country on the decline?

Which murders are the death penalty deterring in the United States? Are murder numbers in our country on the decline?

I have to say LRCW is correct. Zero murderers who received the death penalty ever murdered again. Definitely deterred.

It's not even just the potential liability, although that's part of it. A couple of the companies that manufacture these drugs are based in Europe and find the United States' death penalty barbaric and so have refused to sell those products to governments in the U.S.

 

Then can we take legal action against them to force them to sell the drugs? We (as a country) have no problem making local businesses do business with people they may have moral objections to. (eg, the baker who ddn't want to bake a cake for a gay wedding).

Oh it's definitely a deterrent. Name one person who was executed that ever murdered again.

 

Good point. However, it obviously didn't prevent those who have been executed for murder from murdering in the first place. In order to get the death penalty, murder usually has to be premeditated, which means it was thought about and planned in advance. Despite the death penalty being the possible punishment, the crime got committed anyway. People locked up for life on death row don't murder again either.

Then can we take legal action against them to force them to sell the drugs? We (as a country) have no problem making local businesses do business with people they may have moral objections to. (eg, the baker who ddn't want to bake a cake for a gay wedding).

 

Maybe, but good luck enforcing that ruling overseas.

 

As for the gay wedding cake, that's an issue for the Colorado state legislature, which put sexual orientation in their state laws as a protected class.

Then publically shame them like we did companies like Nike that had abhorrent working conditions overseas.

 

Tax those evil (taking a page from the liberal playbook) companies heavily on the business they do in the US.

 

Or better yet if they won't abide by our laws simply duplicate and manufacture the drugs here.

Not exactly Romans 12:19 is it?

 

Some would say it is Romans 13: 3-4- ...Do you want to be free from the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.

 

For the record, I am somewhat torn on the issue of Capital Punishment. My worldview is Biblically-shaped & the above passage is one reference that I believe supports the practice. So I have long been a proponent of it, but more & more I find myself backing away a bit from those beliefs--similar to what Guru said in post #29. I do feel there are open & shut cases where it should be administered. But we cannot tolerate innocent people being put to death, nor do I believe we can tolerate instances such as this.

 

But I also acknowledge there is a part of me (a sinful part, IMO) that says, "He's getting what he deserves."

I'm pretty much against the death penalty in all instances "in practice". I don't have moral objections to it but have major problems with the uncertainty of executing an innocent. But, this just can't happen. If we are going to do it, end it and be done with it.

 

However, if I'm the victims family my response would pretty much be along the same lines as it was in this case. If that makes me a bad person, so be it...