Did see Hillary lying like a cheap rug with her comments . The left keeps wanting to say it blocks contraception , like ALL contraception. NO ... NO a 1000 NO's .. it blocks Plan B and 3 other forms out of 16 different types of BC . So HL will CONTINUE to provide BC to it's employee's as they have done in years past.

 

 

H. Clinton is complaining about the Supreme Court's decision, but Rush Limbaugh said today that the ruling was based on the Religious Freedom Restoration Act signed by B. Clinton. Is this act the basis for the court's decision? If it is, kind of ironic.

Between $27 and $60 according to a quick Google search.

 

Doesn't seem terribly onerous to me.

 

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I have read through the entire thread and the amount of incorrect information being spewed about is immense.

 

 

First, hormone combinations marketed as oral contraceptives have been and will continue to be used for many conditions other than to prevent pregnancy. In 20+ years of dispensing such medications, I have never had the product be denied coverage when the insurance company was notified by the physician with an associated diagnosis (acne, menstrual pain, migraines,etc...). This includes patients covered by Catholic hospitals and employees of the diocese. It may take 2 to 3 days for the approval to be granted, but it always happens.

 

Second, the morning after pill is OTC. It is not covered by insurance. Not an issue.

 

Next, ED meds are rarely covered. My guess would be less than 10% of the plans I deal with cover the product. Definitely excluded on Medicare.

 

FYI, for those that think this is a big financial burden or an item that most with private insurance can't afford, the most popular oral contraceptives sell for $9.00 per cycle. An average co-pay for generic meds nowadays is $10.00.

Has anyone brought a lawsuit forward yet regarding employers having to cover ED medications? If not, I'll gladly invite you to file, TTP.

 

One of the main sound bites of the election of '16 will be "women are fed up." This decision by the five conservative Neanderthals on the high court is heaven-sent for Hillary.

 

You didn't answer my question.

 

We all should ask the ladies in our lives if they're comfortable with politicians or religious zealots making decisions regarding their health. Then we'll be better able to see the big picture and what the Hobby Lobby case really is about.

 

Still no answer to my question.

 

Funny how you still haven't answered my question....

H. Clinton is complaining about the Supreme Court's decision, but Rush Limbaugh said today that the ruling was based on the Religious Freedom Restoration Act signed by B. Clinton. Is this act the basis for the court's decision? If it is, kind of ironic.

 

It was, indeed , the crux of the ruling and to add further irony the other major factor was AHCA.

I have read through the entire thread and the amount of incorrect information being spewed about is immense.

 

 

First, hormone combinations marketed as oral contraceptives have been and will continue to be used for many conditions other than to prevent pregnancy. In 20+ years of dispensing such medications, I have never had the product be denied coverage when the insurance company was notified by the physician with an associated diagnosis (acne, menstrual pain, migraines,etc...). This includes patients covered by Catholic hospitals and employees of the diocese. It may take 2 to 3 days for the approval to be granted, but it always happens.

 

Second, the morning after pill is OTC. It is not covered by insurance. Not an issue.

 

Next, ED meds are rarely covered. My guess would be less than 10% of the plans I deal with cover the product. Definitely excluded on Medicare.

 

FYI, for those that think this is a big financial burden or an item that most with private insurance can't afford, the most popular oral contraceptives sell for $9.00 per cycle. An average co-pay for generic meds nowadays is $10.00.

 

Ssshhhh, don't tell TTP. He is happier thinking ED meds are covered. This info will cause him to go on a tangential course of action or at the very least, hack on the justices that he previously applauded when the decision leaned towards the left.

Ssshhhh, don't tell TTP. He is happier thinking ED meds are covered. This info will cause him to go on a tangential course of action or at the very least, hack on the justices that he previously applauded when the decision leaned towards the left.

This youtube video is pretty good, Spindoc. Only about 30 seconds long. You'll like it because you voted for this guy in '08. Call it my good-night gift to the board.

 

Doesn't seem terribly onerous to me.

 

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Paycheck to paycheck's a whole different world than yours. You'd be amazed how hard it is to come up with an extra $30 if it comes at the wrong time.

Hypothetical for all:

 

Let say the government passes a law that says AUP policies on forums can not be based on religious beliefs - and owners of these 'for profit' forums must tolerate anything and everything in terms of content posted including vile, obscene, depraved pictures and content. After almost all who object to porn are religious - correct? Being anti-bestiality is religious. Anti-nudity - very religious puritan religion based. So none of these rules or any that could even remotely be traced to 'religion' or sacred beliefs can be in place. And the government is going to enforce this under penalty of law.

 

What happens to this forum?

 

What does the Guru do?

These things are based on morality, not religion. People can be moral and not be religious.

I have read through the entire thread and the amount of incorrect information being spewed about is immense.

 

First, hormone combinations marketed as oral contraceptives have been and will continue to be used for many conditions other than to prevent pregnancy. In 20+ years of dispensing such medications, I have never had the product be denied coverage when the insurance company was notified by the physician with an associated diagnosis (acne, menstrual pain, migraines,etc...). This includes patients covered by Catholic hospitals and employees of the diocese. It may take 2 to 3 days for the approval to be granted, but it always happens.

 

Second, the morning after pill is OTC. It is not covered by insurance. Not an issue.

 

Next, ED meds are rarely covered. My guess would be less than 10% of the plans I deal with cover the product. Definitely excluded on Medicare.

 

FYI, for those that think this is a big financial burden or an item that most with private insurance can't afford, the most popular oral contraceptives sell for $9.00 per cycle. An average co-pay for generic meds nowadays is $10.00.

 

Thanks for the info. I have never had a policy that didn't cover ED, but only twice had a policy that covered BC.

 

On the secondary issue being discussed, how do you feel about hormonal birth being OTC?

Funny how you still haven't answered my question....

He won't. He'd rather claim republicans want to control women's health. In other words, the usual hyperbole.

These things are based on morality, not religion. People can be moral and not be religious.

 

What makes them moral?

Paycheck to paycheck's a whole different world than yours. You'd be amazed how hard it is to come up with an extra $30 if it comes at the wrong time.

 

Trust me I understand how hard it is to come up with extra funds. I would love it is I didn't have my annual $200 OOP that I have to spend on corrective lenses. My options are to do without and not be able to function, change jobs to a place that covers them at 100% or suck it up and pay.

 

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He won't. He'd rather claim republicans want to control women's health. In other words, the usual hyperbole.

Socratic Q and A doesn't work on this board. Best to make a point and end your sentences with periods, not question marks.

 

By the way, Hobby Lobby does cover Viagra, so my vis-a-vis comparison is accurate. Hobby Lobby also covers vasectomies.

 

Men's health is well covered if you work for Hobby Lobby.

What makes them moral?

You picked the wrong analogy based on the news yesterday involving the Archbishop of Minneapolis.