October 20, 201214 yr Player needs to be dismissed from the team. Leave open the possibility of reconciliation if the appropriate apologies are made and a commitment to ethical behavior happens.
October 20, 201214 yr Kick him off. No questions asked. No matter his role. And make sure everyone knows why he is no longer on the team. Locker room cancer is never needed. Kick him off.
October 20, 201214 yr To me it will also depend on a few other things as well, why did they say they were stealing from a teammate? Ask them why they think their teammates could now count on them, and what if the teammates stole from him how would he feel. Seeing if their is any real remorse, had the player had any trouble in the past or try to determine if they have done this before and this is the first time they got caught. I guess I would have a secret meeting with the player who he stole from to see what he thinks should be done, not that you will go solely on what they think. The bottom line is you need to make it a "teachable moment", if the player is the type of person who will actually learn from this then possibly a lesser punishment Vs a player who you think may think he just got away with it and will think that will always happen, and just ends up with a record pages long in the future. The other thing you must do is not take in to account that the player is a starter or top player on the team, but team unity must also be the priority. If someone on one of my teams in the summer would have been caught, after all the above was done and thought of, I would send the kid home, removed from the team, which is actually in our rules.
October 20, 201214 yr I'm giving them a chance to come clean and return the item to me with my confidentiality, but knowing they will be punished. If they still decide to hold onto the item, then I'm brining in school administration and the authorities. May god have mercy on her soul.
October 20, 201214 yr Guru, here are a couple of questions to you, What would happen if he stole a hundred dollars worth of stuff from a store and was caught red handed doing it? What would happen if he stole a hundred dollars worth of stuff from anyone other than a teammate at the school? What would happen if he stole a hundred dollars worth of stuff from anyone in general? Why should it be any different when someone steals from a teammate?
October 21, 201214 yr Guru, here are a couple of questions to you, What would happen if he stole a hundred dollars worth of stuff from a store and was caught red handed doing it? What would happen if he stole a hundred dollars worth of stuff from anyone other than a teammate at the school? What would happen if he stole a hundred dollars worth of stuff from anyone in general? Why should it be any different when someone steals from a teammate? Aren't most teams taught that the team is their family? You should never steal from family and you should never have a teammate you can't trust. Immediate removal.
October 21, 201214 yr Supposed the offender was caught "red handed" with the stolen item(s) leaving no doubt. I definitely would qualify that as empirical. Though like I said, I think with the right punishment I could see letting an underclassmen back after a year suspension. I believe in giving kids a second chance. But it would by no means be a definite come back next year. There would have to be a tough punishment, real remorse, and a punishment that showed they were committed to the team and truly wanted the second chance.
October 21, 201214 yr So we can put L13 down for street justice. He's got a weed whacker and he's not afraid to use it. :lol:
October 21, 201214 yr Aren't most teams taught that the team is their family? You should never steal from family and you should never have a teammate you can't trust. Immediate removal. That's the exact reason I think it should be handled differently than if it were just one stranger stealing from another stranger. Like Sportsguy stated I think each situation is unique and perhaps just kicking the kid off of the team isn't the best way to handle it. I'd like to try to help the kid if I can perhaps that's what he's missing is someone to care enough to give them a second chance and see that they don't foul it up.
October 21, 201214 yr That's the exact reason I think it should be handled differently than if it were just one stranger stealing from another stranger. Like Sportsguy stated I think each situation is unique and perhaps just kicking the kid off of the team isn't the best way to handle it. I'd like to try to help the kid if I can perhaps that's what he's missing is someone to care enough to give them a second chance and see that they don't foul it up. My thinking is that he got caught this time. Probably not the first time he's stolen from teammates.
October 21, 201214 yr Interesting. What kind of path do you guys think kicking the kid off the team will lead him on? Your job as a coach is to help your kids. Sending them packing when they come to that fork in the road could send them down a path no one wants to see a kid go down. Assist in the rehabilitation of the player and do your job.
October 21, 201214 yr Interesting. What kind of path do you guys think kicking the kid off the team will lead him on? Your job as a coach is to help your kids. Sending them packing when they come to that fork in the road could send them down a path no one wants to see a kid go down. Assist in the rehabilitation of the player and do your job. You can assist in the rehabilitation of the player without that player being a member of the team IF you truly care about the path of that player.
October 21, 201214 yr Interesting. What kind of path do you guys think kicking the kid off the team will lead him on? Your job as a coach is to help your kids. Sending them packing when they come to that fork in the road could send them down a path no one wants to see a kid go down. Assist in the rehabilitation of the player and do your job. I agree with you and PP92, I would see if the player he stole from forgives him, even if he does, there will still be some kind of punishment. And it will depend on if he is a troubled kid or not. I'm surprised no one brought this up yet, but a few years ago some players on a team stole from the locker room of another team and many thought they only got a slp on the wrist, and whatever happened to those players? I know, a new thread, but you have to decide what is best for all involved.
October 21, 201214 yr That person should be dismissed from the team immediately and then it should be turned over to the School Resource Officer and the Principal to take any additional action that they might feel is necessary. Stealing is a crime and it should be treated as such.
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