rockmom

Dude...I'm just happy a Trinity basketball preview thread has more than the opening post! Look how far we've come in the last few years! :lol: We're closing in on a whole 2 pages of preseason posts about Trinity basketball, and some of them are even from non-Trinity posters!

I have long said the one of the major factors in the success of programs like Trinity and X Football, Assumption and Sacred Heart and Mercy Volleyball is that the CSAA has organized sports in virtually every sport beginning in first grade. When kids grow up playing sports and learning fundamentals, they're way ahead of those beginning their "careers" when they're freshman. Middle school sports are vital not only for the sports, but in getting kids involved and keeping them out of trouble.

I have a really hard time believing someone would knowingly break rules and then allow the press to publicize it. I understand what people mean about if you break this rule, you'll break others. But that's a kind of wild assumption and a long leap, IMO. I understand the concerns over safety. Thankfully it's been a mild July. I didn't think of that aspect ad a reason for the rule. From some of the posts in this thread, I assumed there must be a distinct competitive advantage, which no seems to feel exists. I'm not sure what the punishment should be. But maybe I just like to give the benefit of the doubt. I just can't see a coach knowingly breaking the rules and going so far as to have the transgression published.

My problem with the quoted passage is that "ideal" was used instead of "idea"

What advantage does a team gain by doing such? I honestly don't know. But in the overall scheme of things, is it THAT bad?

They share with Manual now.

Truth

An aside...who amongst us old timers, especially Trinity posters EVER thought there'd be a thread titled as this one is that didn't refer to football.

Well, it won't be me, as I have no sources for that.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provine_High_School Provine sounds like a Manual type of school. Maybe this family's circumstances aren't as they are being speculated to be.

I personally know of more football players who have dropped football for lacrosse. Although, many also had played baseball for many years as well. I love the sport. It's really fun to watch as a fan

I heard a discussion on talk radio yesterday about the decline of the NFL. In this discussion, the tangents included that kids are forgoing football for other sports growing in popularity in the US. Specifically, the rise of lacrosse was mentioned. Now, I know that doesn't equate to the topics introduced in this thread, which I think are interesting arguments and worth examination. But I don't think that even assigning a mulitiplier for the number of disadvantaged students is going to have a significant impact on "leveling the playing field". For instance, Iroquois High School (used in your proposal), is a school with one of the highest ESL students. However, that doesn't necessarily preclude them from being able academically or physically in playing football. What you do have, though, is a huge cultural difference in the sports that are preferred. Given low numbers of participation, and the increased costs of transportation for a school that already struggles to field a team, I wonder if this would bring about the end of football as a sports choice at that school. I understand that there are differences in the challenges of public, private, independent, rural, urban, open enrollment, district bound enrollment. But I don't think reclassifying based on the economic demographics or the demographic of learning differences accomplishes anything other than to bring a negative connotation in association with those schools, especially those with enrollment heavily skewed toward the disadvantaged circumstances of their students. I think before we consider reclassification of a sport based upon such factors, we need to examine the full scope of what that means in a larger context. In the overall scheme of things, the educational experience is the most important consideration when talking about schools. The educational experience includes extracurricular participation, but does not necessarily mean a powerhouse program.

Agreed. And what emphasis on inclusion does School A put on encouraging students to participate in extracurriculars vs. School B?

I was getting ready to post essentially the same. And whether a program is successful or not is dependent upon FAR many more factors than the number of economically disadvantaged students or students with learning differences.

6 different states represented on that schedule. Whew!

#teamAndroid I'm kind of anti-Apple. And I legitimately do love my Android platform. Now, devices I have some I don't prefer. But the platform bars none, in my opinion.

Coaching CSAA will still be VERY influential on the high school football scene. Who the heck better to teach these youngsters the fundamentals? I've always contended that a never talked about, yet significant, factor on the success of private high schools is the CSAA league, the fact that kids start playing when they're in 3rd grade, there is no "cuts", and are coached by some great, great, unhearalded coaches.

Congratulations to the Cardinals! This is a special year for you!

Aww...let him have it. He loathes the Rocks.

Our Achilles heel.. FT shooting

Let Joker crow. He predicted a pro-SC crowd. Or was it an anti-T crowd?