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That was my point. Not a shot at BGP, but when class A only has 32 teams, and 15 are ranked doesn't it lose it's meaning?

I mostly agree with the quoted. Although it should be recognized that Cooper has played Ryle, NCC, and Boone to date. Three programs that are often recognized as traditional powers in the area. Cooper winning in the fashion they have tells me either they are pretty darn good, or the three opponents mentioned are further down than anyone would have thought.

Whoa. Not West Virginia State, surely no one on the field is that "big time." Note to FBB: If you want to sell us on the athleticism of a particular team, don't throw West Virginia State out there as a suitor.

Moeller is very good. They really are a extremely good high school football team. But, NKY is a large area with a lot of football players playing on good teams. Of course there are a couple of kids from NKY who would start for Moeller. Honestly, I can't tell you exactly who they would be, but if you are a D-I player in NKY, chances are Moeller could use you someplace. It's really just a matter of probability. You are talking about hundreds of NKY kids, who only have to gain one starting spot. the likelyhood of that happening is very high. I'd say several would likely start. And, yes, I know Moeller's personnel. Haven't seen all the NKY kids that have been listed here though.

Why not just rank the remaining 17 teams and be done with it?

CovCath is good, I've been told really good. But Moeller is on another level and will be most years. Moeller by three to five touchdowns. Hope the Colonels stay healthy in this one. As an aside, lots of posts mentioned the Harbin's. With eight teams per region (or 16 now in two D-I semi-state brackets) it is much easier for Ohio schools to make the playoffs now than years ago. Specifically with Moeller, they play a schedule that will put them in the playoff hunt at 5-5 ish. And since playoff games are moved to neutral sites by round two or three at the latest, seeding isn't a huge factor, it really only affects one round of the playoffs. CovCath's harbin points mean something to Moeller, but they aren't make or break. Similarly, Alter could certainly play CovCath and withstand a loss without sweating it costing them a playoff berth. Alter has gone 6-4 and maybe even 5-5 and made the playoffs. They play that tough of a schedule. My guess is they may be interested in a CovCath series, but really don't need it.

Classic! I thought someone's posts seemed out of place, but couldn't put my finger on it....

I'm a little surprised this is thread, as the obvious answer is, yes, it plays a large role and has for years. Thing is Louisville was typically the biggest benefactor of these transfers in the past. Not so much from outside Jefferson County to Jeff. Co., but more from one school to a more "traditional power." It happened so frequently that the state banned all high school coaches from coaching or attending games of their players during the AAU season for a time. I'm a little surprised to see kids leave Jefferson County, but AAU and transfers have gone hand in hand for years, and not just in Ky. Much worse in other states.

This is the equivalent of being the best hockey player in all of Ecuador.

I'm aware of St. Henry's former district, and their foes. That's why I mentioned it in my thread. Lloyd was also in the 33rd during the 80's and into the mid 90's. Another strong baseball program to contend with at the time. St. Henry likely would have won a few more districts in the late 80's, 90's, and 00's (feel better?) in their current district. But, they still would have had to contend with Dixie each year for a title. Dixie is one of the most consistent programs in the area, so that would have never been a gimmie. From the outside looking in, St. Henry's program has certainly appeared stronger. But even in those years, it's not like they were on the cusp of regional dominance. They were good, and a contender to make the regional each year. Kinda like they are now.

My thoughts: The event has a ton of teams playing all over the place during multiple weekends. So either the event offers a good payday for participants, or Gamble does a heck of a job selling ice to the Eskimos. One would have thought losing Nippert this year would have been crippling to the event, but there may be more teams participating than ever. I don't get it. Like the premise of the event, and like the idea of a one-day affair at Nippert featuring four or five games. Based on the name of the event, it should be Kentucky vs. Ohio schools, but that ship sailed years ago. In a city like Cincinnati, a one day event would (and has) gone over very well. Heck, use PBS as well and make it a two-day affair. Of course, you would end up with all the same schools year in and year out. No promoter is going to ever turn away Elder, Moeller, St. X, Colerain and the crowds they bring. So now the challenge would be finding someone for each of those schools to play every year. FWIW, LaRosa's put on the first event of this type many moons ago. Games were played at Riverfront Stadium. It was hot as a mug, but a nice day of football. And, nobody questioned where the money went. Sadly, that event didn't last very long.

I'm in the camp of not understanding how this game is still on SK's schedule. I would have thought that the program would have out grown playing a traditionally mediocre 2A school years ago. Sounds like a knock on HC, but it isn't really. They've had a couple really good years, and a state title season. They've also had some really bad seasons, and lots of well....pretty average 2A type seasons. I understand scheduling isn't always easy, but at this stage this is a game neither program needs. SK would be better served playing class A Beechwood than Holy Cross nine out of 10 years.

Without getting involved in the coaching debate, or any of the politics that may be involved, I can likely answer your question/post. St. Henry was never dominate in baseball, but has had good to very good teams over the years. The very good were pretty scattered in with the good. But, they had a nice run from the late 80's into the late 90's where they were pretty darn good year in and year out. Of course it didn't get them any further than the recent teams have gotten. A trip to the regional most years, and an exit in round one or two. That said, St. Henry played in a much tougher district during the 80's and 90's, so I think it took much better teams to just get to the region. I think the program has taken a step backward in the last five to 10 years, but it has not been a drastic step. I think it's more about perception than anything else. St. Henry programs have been pretty stable in their history, and the recent coaching carousal in baseball shakes things up, and perhaps makes things look worse than they actually are.

Hoping they don't end up on MTV.:lol2: And now back to our regularly scheduled thread.

My guess is when the lights are installed, they will be on pretty close to every night during the fall.

I'm not sure why this is so mind boggling, read the other posts regarding private schools and you will see that facilities are at a premium. If I had to guess, I would say CovCath is the only high school field in the state without lights at this point. But, at least they have a field.

Nah, not really. That's just another night in the GCL.

If I remember correctly, it was a 5:30 kickoff, but I'm splitting hairs. Cool thing about this game, it kicked off football in the state every other year (pun intended). Looking back at those days, it was almost like the Thursday night opener the NFL has now. Two of the best teams in the state starting the season off, just a little before everyone else kicks off. Always a great atmosphere and almost always a great game. You'd be hard pressed to get those games started today based on the heat index stuff though.

I've read every post in the thread, and Ram I get your point. I don't agree with it, but I get it. Small sampling of things that refute your point: Aren't most teams preseason practices mainly in the mornings? They sure used to be. I'd think most of these guys have been practicing at or earlier than 10 am for part of the summer. No? State championship games start at 11 am in Ohio and Kentucky. Is the extra hour really that big a deal? High School kids are expected to be up and at full capacity for school five days a week by 8 am ish. ACT tests begin at 9 am sometimes. I don't see playing a ball game at 10 am as much of wrench in the works of the players. Seems like it's more of a wrench in the works of your perception of how we should treat high school varsity games. Kids (including high level high school athletes) play games at and earlier than 10 am all the time in select and AAU tournaments. Baseball, soccer, softball, basketball, et al. Happens all the time. Happens even at the highest levels of all the sports I just mentioned where scouts and recruiters are in attendance. Kids are used to this. And, I could be wrong on this, but I think we've seen other games in NKY moved to Saturday mornings due to the weather in recent years. I can't think of a specific example, but it seems like there have been some other games that ended being played or finished on Saturday morning. Again, I get your point. But not every game is going to be played at 7:30 every Friday. Most NKY schools now play their Friday games at 7. Go figure.

Actually the first quoted makes no sense. If there is no conference for football, how do schools belong to the conference for football? On second quoted, I don't remember that, but it would seem like there is either a conference for football or there isn't. And, there isn't.

Best atmosphere I ever witnessed for a Kentucky High School game was Trinity at Boone County in the 1988 state semis. UNREAL. Talk about fitting 5 pounds of sand into a 3 pound bag. They had police tape around both sidelines and people were lined up seven deep along the track. Still gives me goose bumps. T had the oldest Brohm boy at quarterback (Jeff?) and tied the game with a late 80 something yard drive. T then won the game in overtime. One of the better high school games I've ever seen.

I haven't been to Wooten Field in a minute, but it's atmosphere used to be pretty darn good. Always a nice student section that was close enough to the field you could actually hear them on the sidelines. Beechwood always has a good atmosphere as well. And if the high school game is boring, you can always watch one of the hundreds of pick up games the little kids get going anyplace they can find 10 yards. It's the place to be in Fort Mitchell on Friday night.

The Pit at Elder easily top my list. I've seen a lot of games there over the years, and the atmosphere never ceases to amaze me.

With her playing her senior year, and what Holy Cross returns does this make the Indians the prohibitive favorites in the Ninth this year? Seems like they have an awful good nucleus

The bolded confuses me, there is no NKAC when it comes to football is there? If there is, this certainly can't be the alignment since 8 of the schools listed aren't members of the NKAC. Heck, the entire 2A district 5 is made up of non-NKAC members. Not saying you are wrong, but I'm confused. Seems like it would be weird for South Oldham and Harrison County to be crowned NKAC champs, when they aren't members.